KK 3bet pot. Realy sick spot

I dont like check turn so much. He beats us with 55,78,88,89 and now dro got there but some 78 discounted/
And we can bet again vs his range, but it will be diffucult on the river, because only option will be b/f or shove and (c/f on some bad runouts.) Or there is no point in betting turn : )

As played I would jam vs his turn bet, because he wont bluff river and I assuming he didnt even bluff turn with that size.

What his 4 bet btw???? (And take a note about that size:) )

Hey, good evaluation.

Her 4bet is 11%

The problem that i see whit c/shiping turn is that I don see worst hands paying me and always i been faced vs flushes.

What do u do if against a raise if u bet turn? u bet/broke hear? bet/fold?

11 = 1,65% range solid value + couple bluffs
probably AQs,AJs,AKo,AQo(sometimes) flats vs 3 bet ip
He shouldnt have a lot of flushes, AQ,AJ, A4s???, vs other you at least have K :diamond:, he could jam AA without diamond, but it is best hand : ) QQ,KK. Kinda stupid to c/r turn or c/c.

What do u do if against a raise if u bet turn? u bet/broke hear? bet/fold?

I will call vs some ppl, who dont fold much vs cb, and potentially can bluff. But most likely I will fold, KK not the best my hand here.

Hy agane mysteryman

Why he shouldent have flushes if he fold 3bet 63%?

He is defending 5.55% of her range whit call + 4bets.
4bet war really polarized in FR so he have KK+ (0.80%) and random blockers (0.80%)

The 3.9% is in her range of call 3bet, its something like: QQ-99, AJs+, KQs, AKo

But the morphology of the range of call could be diferent, he could call whit something like: QQ-JJ, AJs+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, AKo

Play bet/fold turn could be ok but how we know if the oponent is agresive enogth to fold?

Bcause have a lot of players that are very spewis in this spots

Also I think that if we bet turn he is folding all worst hands like JJ TT, maby QQ but really thin IMO.

Originally posted by Stedyeddy
Hy agane mysteryman

Hello

Originally posted by StedyeddyWhy he shouldent have flushes if he fold 3bet 63%?

only AJs+ JTs, 9Ts (occasionally)

Originally posted by Stedyeddy
Play bet/fold turn could be ok but how we know if the oponent is agresive enogth to fold?

Tough to say, really depends on a lot of stats : )

Originally posted by Stedyeddy
Also I think that if we bet turn he is folding all worst hands like JJ TT, maby QQ but really thin IMO.

Thats cool for us, if he folds. But not in that spot. And we are not gonna bet big on turn. I assume he will x behind all AK,AQ behind.

Turn c/c ok, but vs that size, maybe fold

If it is zoom, tell me her name : )

is zoom.

chenconhaste

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he(she) is decent, c/fold turn or bet fold : )

ty : )

after eval, tell me what villian had: )

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Im chenconhaste, the oponent is yanhai257

He show me Q :diamond:Q and i was O_o

so you are decent. Yo stacked me couple times
yanhai257 Idont remember that one, QQ make sence but it is only one hand... and KK could play like this

Ty for all. And sry hear this : ( . Gl in tables : )

Really enjoyed this hand, ty.
And thats ok, better when you stacked me, than some drunk fishy guy : )
Good luck!

gl !

Hi there!

pre flop looks fine.

Flop seems good.

Turn I don't like checking. The reason is that villain is gonna check back AdXx, maybe even hands like 99-QQ, with or without diamond. So I think we are loosing too much value in checking turn.

As played I think we should be shoving versus that turn bet. Yes, villain has some flushes, AQ/AJ and maybe AT of diamonds, but he does not have KQ or AK since we block those. So we actually loose to few combos and the problem is that we are giving him his stack anyway, whether we call turn and river or jam turn. BUT, those other hands he might bet 99-QQ against those it's way better to shove turn since he might check back river some of the time. So we end up getting stacked anyways by better hands but we give villain the opportunity to check back river with worse hands.

Oka. Thanks for the evaluation doble2.

What is your opinion to play: Bet/ bet/fold and c/f river?

Originally posted by Stedyeddy
Oka. Thanks for the evaluation doble2.

What is your opinion to play: Bet/ bet/fold and c/f river?

No way we should be bet/folding turn, it's really important to understand that if villain does shove 99-QQ sometimes on the turn we would be making a really big mistake in folding turn.

If villain calls turn I think we sttill have value in shoving turn. It's not clear cut but I think it's the best play.