Ajo vs huuuge shove

AceSteph

Joined: 31.03.2010

25.06.2014, 16:19 0

PokerStars - $8+$0.80|50/100 Ante 10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 4,999 (VPIP: 15.48, PFR: 13.93, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 255)
Hero (CO): 6,715
BTN: 9,960 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 5,666 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 20)
BB: 7,085 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 30.00, Hands: 30)
UTG: 5,813 (VPIP: 26.56, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 67)

6 players post ante of 10, SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 210) Hero has A♣ J♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 252, BTN calls 252, fold, fold

Flop: (714, 2 players) A♠ 4♠ 2♣
Hero checks, BTN bets 9,698 and is all-in, Hero

I know that cbet is usually std here, but I rather wanted to c/call, keeping his range wider, might bluff some hands. Didn't really expect this move... What's the bottom of our call range?

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_Anonymous_

26.06.2014, 12:25 0

Hi,

Since that situation would almost never happen I would likely c/c with A4s+
Huge overbet shoves show more often strength than air and I don´t see reason why you should risk AJ with marginal spot. But if you´re against maniac, then c/c with any tp hand is fine.

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chenny8888

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28.06.2014, 03:52 0

Hi all,

I'm thinking AJ+ against maniacs, but A4+ against the rest.

I think we will see this overshove with some top pairs from maniacs, just because derpaderp. But against the rest: they are probably overshoving 42s+ or thereabouts.

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Havlisak

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30.06.2014, 10:23 0

We dont check 2pair+ on the flop, so we do not call any hands against him. Not a problem for you?

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AceSteph

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30.06.2014, 10:38 0

Originally posted by Havlisak
We dont check 2pair+ on the flop, so we do not call any hands against him. Not a problem for you?

we might and we can go for a c/r sometimes. and since he's unknown (5 hands) I don't think we have to balance vs unknown, he won't exploit this for a 7bb big pot.
but vs a player with more info this could be a reason as well

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chenny8888

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01.07.2014, 01:37 0

Hi,

I could see myself checking AA here maybe 5% of the time.... but no the balance issue is not a problem for me here ever. In fact on a lot of boards I will have near 100% fold to overbet shove... at least the first time!

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