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77 shove vs raise

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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

MP raises a wide range, vs him its an easy shove. But MP+1 looks fishy and his call looks very strong. I think he calls alot of the hands he should shove. Hands like AJ, (AQ), KQs, 88,99, TT,. He could easily just call there with AA, KK. So when i shove he will probably call close to 100% and im pretty crushed vs his range. But the preflop raiser will fold a big % of the time.

Should i shove considering the 34k overlay?

PokerStars - $100+$9|2000/4000 Ante 500 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 88,113 (VPIP: 18.99, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 79)
BB: 362,117 (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 13)
UTG: 104,092 (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 19.28, 3Bet Preflop: 13.79, Hands: 86)
UTG+1: 71,930 (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
MP: 325,340 (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 43)
MP+1: 65,628 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 105,210 (VPIP: 17.98, PFR: 14.88, 3Bet Preflop: 14.52, Hands: 180)
Hero (BTN): 61,403

8 players post ante of 500, SB posts SB 2,000, BB posts BB 4,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 10,000) Hero has 7♠ 7♦

fold, fold, MP raises to 8,000, MP+1 calls 8,000, CO calls 8,000, Hero?


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

As you have noted, MP1's call is likely very strong. Here I would do a quick search to see how good MP1 actually is. If he is good/winning, then I opt for a call (I think setmining is still profitable given the likely 5-way nature of the pot). If he is not good, then I opt for a shove. He will still show up with a pretty strong range of 88-JJ, AQ if he is bad (because he is tight), however we still have some fold equity against 88/99, maybe AQ and our equity is not that bad. When he is good, there is effectively no dead money in the pot because his range is actually KK+.


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