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Hello,

flop I cbet because I have a backdoor flush and the board is paired. Can I find a call on the turn, because I beat most pp, Qx, Kx?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): 214 BB
BB: 178.5 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 322.5 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 133 BB (VPIP: 15.63, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ 8♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9♥ J♦ 9♠
Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

Turn: (12 BB, 2 players) J♥
Hero checks, BB bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

River: (24 BB, 2 players) 2♦
Hero checks, BB checks

Spoiler

Hero shows A♦ 8♦ (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines) (Pre 48%, Flop 44%, Turn 91%)
BB mucks 4♠ 4♦ (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines) (Pre 52%, Flop 56%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins 23 BB


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faronel
Joined: 13.07.2011

The main reason to CB here is still the fact that you are the preflop aggressor, you may easily rep Jx, drawing broadway or some pocket that still beats a lot of cards from BB potential cold call range in BvB, thus forcing the BB to fold.

Rather asking about whether the call on turn was the right move, ask yourself why did you check there in the first place? Giving up the hand? Letting villain bluff, knowing you are ahead? What is your plan for the river then? Check/call? Not likely, unless you hit your A.

I would fold, since seems like you were giving up the action anyway.


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Turn didn't improve my hand nor is the J a scarecard, I don't see villain folding a lot of hands that he didn't fold on the flop, so I should give up?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

i don't hate it in this specific spot. :f_biggrin:

hands you beat are pp (that is pretty cool), QT KT T8 87 and such. the interesting thing is that we still just have a bluffcatcher on the river regardless of whether we hit the A :f_biggrin:


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your c/c on turn was pretty obv that your hand wasnt strong.

if i were villain i would bet pot on river regardless of my cards - would you bluff catch me?

p.s. I only need to win 33% of the time for my bluff to work.


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I seem to be overlooking something, if you bet 24BB into 24BB, don't you need 50% FE?


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Originally posted by MarliesB
I seem to be overlooking something, if you bet 24BB into 24BB, don't you need 50% FE?

assume a pot of $1 and villain bet $1, so you need $1 to call

pot odds = (pot size + villain's bet) to (call amt)
pot odds = (1+1) to 1
pot odds = 2 to 1

break-even = 100/(pot odds added together)
break-even = 100/(2+1)
break-even = 33.3%


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

33% is what the caller needs. the bluffer needs 50%


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ok more power to you i guess

so if i were villain and actions stayed the same except for river where i bet pot on this board - what is your call?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011