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deep, ovp + NFD, check turn weak ?

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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

iPoker - €2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: €423.10 (VPIP: 39.63, PFR: 17.04, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 496)
CO: €385.60 (VPIP: 52.34, PFR: 30.10, 3Bet Preflop: 16.08, Hands: 631)
BTN: €202.00 (VPIP: 37.07, PFR: 25.93, 3Bet Preflop: 8.74, Hands: 3,093)
SB: €200.00 (VPIP: 12.94, PFR: 9.41, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 86)
Hero (BB): €571.05

SB posts SB €1.00, Hero posts BB €2.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €3.00) Hero has A♠ J♠ A♥ J♥

fold, CO raises to €7.00, fold, SB calls €6.00, Hero raises to €28.00, CO calls €21.00, SB calls €21.00

Flop: (€84.00, 3 players) 6♠ K♣ 9♠
SB checks, Hero bets €59.00, CO calls €59.00, fold

Turn: (€202.00, 2 players) 5♦
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (€202.00, 2 players) K♦
Hero checks, CO checks

Spoiler

CO shows Q♠ K♥ T♥ 3♦ (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 25%, Flop 26%, Turn 25%)
Hero mucks A♠ J♠ A♥ J♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Kings) (Pre 75%, Flop 74%, Turn 75%)
CO wins €199.50

Villain LAG reg

Préflop

super std

Flop

good flop with ovp + NFD.

My plan was to cbet / 3bet allin if someone give me action (SB isn't a nit too).
would it be ok ? (maybe the problem is that with those JJxx in my hand, there're few straight draws in their range)

thoughts about the sizing ?

Turn

erf, Villain floats tons.

Here with position he can float many Kxxx, some FDs maybe, and big straight draws and hand kind of p+gs.

There're some 78xx in his range (oesd, oesd+p, wraps).

Having in my hand the NFD and JJxx, his range have fewer FDs and less straight draws like QJTx or KJTx/KJQx too.

And maybe I was afraid of being raised and have to fuck fold.

I decided to check and see, but maybe should I bet here, value/protection vs pair+sthg, or value/implied vs pair+FD/combo draws etc...
And easy b/f if he shoves

River

I feel I've been sucked out here :evil:
my plan is simply c/f now


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

i think sizing otf looks okay i would make it a lit bigger 65 or so

i would bet/fold ott especially oop dont like to c/c vs a midsize bet for example

as played yeah c/f seems resonable


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Suhepxm
Joined: 20.10.2008

if he really floats a ton i like to bomb turn or c/shove.
I think our hand is too strong to x/f vs any opponent.

In general u want to barrel a high frequency vs float heavy opponents, because it makes their floating way more expansive/less lucrative and you take advantage of their weak Turn Range.


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

Against wide floaters I like c/jamming the turn, however, the problem here is imo that he will have a decent amount of equity which he is just gonna check behind as he knows you'll c/jam often. Hands like pair+gutter+livecards, gutter+fd etc. where he would hate to b/f the turn.
I also sort of hate to b/f the NFD but I think you don't get raised too often so I would probably b/f turn. I only c/c against players of whom I have specific river reads, namely "is SD-bound" and "turns SDV into bluffs too often". The first allows for enough vbets and the second for enough bluffcatching.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

unless villain is uncapable of jamming wider than just with the nuts, we can't b/f the turn. c/jam is fine if we can get away with it, but usually we can't. So yeah b/broke unless unless villains raises here are heavy on straights.

Not the simplest spot tho i agree.

Regards,

Skod


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

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OsCardozo
Joined: 29.05.2011

ok thx

does the sizing seem right ?

Pot is imo hard to balance (pot just in value and I'm showing that I'm nearly commiting myself here).

I try sthg like 2/3 sized bet


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

actually pot is ok to balance as you can do it with everything you want to stackoff here. Whatever you have here that wants to gii usually needs protection.

If you bet 2/3 you are not folding anyways, so i might just pot here make sure he folds some pair + gutters w/o fd that can have very good equity still.

Regards,

Skod


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