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[Closed] (3/6) Q5s: BTN steal doesn't work... weak call on the turn ?

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Full Tilt (Cash Game): $3/$6 FL , 5 players
Mon Nov 17 19:03:00 CET 2008
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Sukout199 ($91.50)
Summer Morn ($91)
jacksindahole ($176.50)
ello mallo 000 ($255.50)
bcsmith69 ($80)

ello mallo 000 is the button.

Precards:
bcsmith69 posts the small blind $1.50, Sukout199 posts the big blind $3.

Preflop: ello mallo 000 is dealt 5♣ Q♣ (5 active)
2 folds, ello mallo 000 raises to $6, bcsmith69 folds, Sukout199 raises to $9, ello mallo 000 calls $3.

Flop: 9♥ 5♦ K♦ ($19.50, 2 active)
Sukout199 bets $3, ello mallo 000 calls $3.

Turn: 9♥ 5♦ K♦ 4♦ ($25.50, 2 active)
Sukout199 bets $6, ello mallo 000 calls $6.

River: 9♥ 5♦ K♦ 4♦ J♠ ($37.50, 2 active)
Sukout199 bets $6, ello mallo 000 folds.

Final Pot: $36.50, $1 raked
ello mallo 000, net: -$18, Folded River, has [5c Qc] (a Pair of Fives)
Sukout199, net: $18.50, Won uncontested River
bcsmith69, net: -$1.50, Folded Preflop

Sukout199
#hands: 1,147
VP$P: 35%
PFR: 15%
ATS: 33%
WTSD: 35$
PostFlop AF: 2.40


8 replies
Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

I would fold the turn aswell, his range is pretty strong and you barely have any outs against stronger hands.


Yes of course, a mistake.

I cannot call the turn without

I've tried with equilator ... and on the flop I am 50 - 50 ( 52% maybe )
On the turn I have less equity and I have to fold with just pair of 5 ( I beat only AQ or AT )


He is pretty passive preflop (PFRwise) so a 3-bet on the BB is even stronger.

Here my range (calling the flop is fine):

Board: Kd 9h 5d
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 32,737% 32,669% 0,136% 67,195% Qc5c
Spieler 2: 67,263% 67,195% 0,136% 32,669% 99+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+

Your equity on the turn is still pretty good so you can call again:
Board: Kd 9h 5d 4d
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 26,754% 26,754% 0,000% 73,246% Qc5c
Spieler 2: 73,246% 73,246% 0,000% 26,754% 99+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+

The river however is a you did a fold. The J may improved him and he won't bet his whole range again as well so your equity drops a lot.


About his range... I've tried with equilator with another range:

77+, A9s+, KJs+, KQo, ATo+ or something like this...

However Ty


His PFR is really low so I like to go by the tighter range here.

By the way isn't Q5s a bit loose?


Q5s is loose, of course... but I'm trying to use a loose range against tight blinds ;)

BB wasnt tight, :tongue:


That's fine but please post their fold to steal stats in these cases as it's hard to see that by the VPIP. :)
(He should fold more than a TAG else being looser isn't +EV. Well if his wts is low as it's here it should be fine again.)


Masqb
Joined: 23.02.2008

Your image/stats are also important here. decent 3/6 players can (sometimes) adjust to you and his 3bet range can be a little lighter here (and your equity on Turn bigger)