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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $14.37
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 16.28, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 43)
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 20.75, PFR: 11.32, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 55)
UTG: $19.84 (VPIP: 17.73, PFR: 13.99, 3Bet Preflop: 6.92, Hands: 345)
UTG+1: $4.54 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP: $4.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: $7.64 (VPIP: 8.46, PFR: 5.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 261)
MP+2: $10.00 (VPIP: 16.51, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 9.76, Hands: 222)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♦ A♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB raises to $1.20, fold, CO calls $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.70, 3 players) Q♠ K♥ 4♥
SB checks, CO bets $2.10, Hero raises to $13.17 and is all-in, fold, fold

Hero wins $7.54

I wasn't too sure what line to take here. If we call on the flop there are tons of bad turn cards to face, plus if he has a hand like KJ AQ or a draw himself and perhaps put me on a draw he might just get it in.
Optimal play here??


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey DecMate,

Preflop call is ok, I recommend 3betting by default though.

After SB squeeze I would call. We can even consider 4betting and stacking (CO is likely capped and we should be ahead of the SB range).

I would usually call flop and decide on turn here. Not because I don't think our hand is good, but because I think it might be a little tough for villain to call a shove with worse. However it's really unlikely he ever has QQ/KK here although he could have QK.

Shoving is still probably +EV though. We get a decent amount of folds and may get called by worse some of the time still.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by w34z3l
Hey DecMate,

Preflop call is ok, I recommend 3betting by default though.

After SB squeeze I would call. We can even consider 4betting and stacking (CO is likely capped and we should be ahead of the SB range).

I would usually call flop and decide on turn here. Not because I don't think our hand is good, but because I think it might be a little tough for villain to call a shove with worse. However it's really unlikely he ever has QQ/KK here although he could have QK.

Shoving is still probably +EV though. We get a decent amount of folds and may get called by worse some of the time still.

3betting by default vs an unknown?

What is our plan on a flop where we get c/r after hitting a K/A?
And if we get 4b, then what?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by DecMate

3betting by default vs an unknown?

What is our plan on a flop where we get c/r after hitting a K/A?
And if we get 4b, then what?

If we get 4bet we can either flat or shove. Shoving is easier at first until you get used to 4b pots.

As for the x/r question it depends on the exact flop texture + villain etc. Seeing as many FR guys at these limits don't x/r bluff very aggressively we can actually find a fold quite frequently even with TPTK.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by w34z3l

Originally posted by DecMate

3betting by default vs an unknown?

What is our plan on a flop where we get c/r after hitting a K/A?
And if we get 4b, then what?

If we get 4bet we can either flat or shove. Shoving is easier at first until you get used to 4b pots.

As for the x/r question it depends on the exact flop texture + villain etc. Seeing as many FR guys at these limits don't x/r bluff very aggressively we can actually find a fold quite frequently even with TPTK.

shoving or flatting in a 4b pot with AK, im sure, is -EV. Almost never have i got it in good in that situation.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by DecMate
shoving or flatting in a 4b pot with AK, im sure, is -EV. Almost never have i got it in good in that situation.

Keep in mind that it doesn't matter if opponent has KK+ 100% of the time. We have hidden expectation in the form of our preflop fold equity.

Having said that if opponent just 4bets super tight then 3b/fold is fine with AK.

Either way it should be a value 3b at these limits at least some percentage of the time. Having to sometimes fold to a 4b is not a reason to miss a value 3b.


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