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NL100 PF BB 62s, 3betpot river decision

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alphamonkey
Joined: 27.12.2013

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

SB: $121.58 (121.6 bb)
Hero (BB): $101.50 (101.5 bb)
MP: $60.73 (60.7 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $121.28 (121.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6♦ 2♦
2 folds, BTN raises to $2.20, SB folds, Hero raises to $8, BTN calls $5.80

Flop: ($16.50) T♥ Q♠ J♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($16.50) K♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $10.50, BTN calls $10.50

River: ($37.50) A♦ (2 players)
Hero ???

Villain 25/20/8 (big sample)

OR BU 55%
Fold to 3bet BU 59%

WTSD 27%
WWSF 46%

River bet 35%

What do you think about river ? What size ? May be x/push ?

thanks !


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teddypoker
Joined: 29.05.2007

I think pot size is best here, you will get a lot of call for splits here.
X/r all in i think is not that +EV, only if you know about him that he try to takes lots of pots on the river.
You can bet also over pot if you have over pot bet dynamic with him.


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Hi Alpha,

pre flop looks fine,

Flop good, x/f for sure

Turn betting seems good

River I would make it around 1.5x. I think villain will call that size, but I could be mistaken. Definitely we should not bet smaller than potsize.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

how are you constructing your pre 3b range here?


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bulldozzer7
Joined: 07.11.2010

against bu minr bb 3bettingrange should be exxtremly polarized since we can just call so many hands to the good odds

therefore hands like 62s-64s,42s-43s, 25s-35s, 73s-74s .... should make up a large portion of your bluff 3betting range

anymway - i would ps on the river - dont htink we can go bigger - he will be able to fold sometimes + might have better flushes sometimes


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Originally posted by Tomaloc
how are you constructing your pre 3b range here?

Something like this:

99+, ATs+, KQs, 95s-92s, 85s-82s, 75s-73s, 63s+, 53s+, 42s+, ATo+, KJo+

So 62s is a borderline one I guess.


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alphamonkey
Joined: 27.12.2013

Originally posted by double2

Originally posted by Tomaloc
how are you constructing your pre 3b range here?

Something like this:

99+, ATs+, KQs, 95s-92s, 85s-82s, 75s-73s, 63s+, 53s+, 42s+, ATo+, KJo+

So 62s is a borderline one I guess.

mmm, ATs+, KJo + ?

My 3bet value stdd BB vs BU is: TT+;AJ+;KQ;


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Originally posted by alphamonkey

Originally posted by double2

Originally posted by Tomaloc
how are you constructing your pre 3b range here?

Something like this:

99+, ATs+, KQs, 95s-92s, 85s-82s, 75s-73s, 63s+, 53s+, 42s+, ATo+, KJo+

So 62s is a borderline one I guess.

mmm, ATs+, KJo + ?

My 3bet value stdd BB vs BU is: TT+;AJ+;KQ;

Against min raise from 55% open raise we can go both ways with hands like KJo, but AT and 99 are 3bets. And if villains open raises closer to 65% we have to raise those hands, including KJo.


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x3mwisp
Joined: 31.03.2009

Do you 3bet for value like 15% of his opening range? I've heard about the 15% but how do we get that number? Is it because of his must defend to not be exploited?


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Originally posted by x3mwisp
Do you 3bet for value like 15% of his opening range? I've heard about the 15% but how do we get that number? Is it because of his must defend to not be exploited?

Honestly never heard of such a number, I just do what it seems best. But 15% seems a bit low against a min raise.


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