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22$ ATs bluffshove turn?

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acerbikas
Joined: 03.01.2011

Party, $18.18 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 29,061 (24.2 bb)
Hero (BB): 35,580 (29.7 bb)
UTG+2: 8,749 (7.3 bb)
MP1: 100,918 (84.1 bb)
MP2: 11,556 (9.6 bb)
MP3: 81,068 (67.6 bb)
CO: 46,057 (38.4 bb)
BTN: 62,354 (52 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A T
4 folds, CO raises to 2,400, 2 folds, Hero raises to 6,200, CO calls 3,800

Flop: (14,000) K J 8 (2 players)
Hero bets 7,000, CO calls 7,000

Turn: (28,000) K (2 players)
Hero ?

Okay, so my reasoning is super standard, the guy just popped up onto my table and I felt 3betting would keep me inline with my table image (I was semi-tight 16/14/7). Now what I did not really expect him was to call and float my cbet since it hits my range so well. In theory, I was setting up a turnshove regardless of what came by, but somehow ott the K fell and I largely realized that I have lost much of my fold equity agianst the guy's Jx and flush draw anyway. So, should i have continued and shoved it in here? He's rarely folding here though it does seem more on the bluff-float side since he isn't putting it in with the draw...

Any other way to play the hand without flatting?

Spoiler

Hero checks, CO checks

River: (28,000) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 32,732 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: 28,000 pot
Final Board: K J 8 K 6
Hero mucked A T and lost (-13,325 net)
CO mucked and won 28,000 (14,675 net)


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Hi,

I would likely c/f or c/c turn. My biggest problem about turn shove is that I don´t really have turn shove range. Likely I would likely check all of my range (maybe consider shoving AsQs, QsTs). If you shove Kx+ hands, then I don´t mind shoving AT, but since I´m not sure your fold equity then I would rather take c/c or c/f line. 18bb is enough to continue playing and I doubt he is going to float you small pp-s+ he would most likely check back Jx, 8x hands that you might get him to fold on the river.

best regards,


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onetwo78
Joined: 06.07.2010

it is a super-standard pre call for me pre.
As played, I would play the same on the flop and on the turn.
I am just thinking about the river herocall...
He would shove FD-s on the flop.
He would shove Kx on the turn.
We can have AJ, QQ , Jx and he shoves the river.
Yes, I think I would call river, I think we have enough EQ, because his bluff-range is too wide.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

From BB I think we're a bit too deep to 3b/c this, and it's far too strong a hand to 3b/f. I like a passive defend too, and I would check/call this particular flop after passive defence (and check/call turn too BTW on this runout).

As played I think you have to check/give up this card and not feel too bad about it really... you have a LOT of check/call turns.


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