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Hero Fold @ 2nl

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NothingIsForSho
Joined: 01.06.2014

Hi all,

I have a hand I'm not sure about from my last session. Could someone tell me if they think my logic here is bad.

The BTN is a complete unknown who actually packed up and left 3 hands after this hand so I still have no clue what was doing, but my thoughts are as follows:

Everything is standard until the flop where even though I know when he min raises he probably has hands that I crush that are looking to see if they have the best hand, if i raise an extra 50c for example, then

(a) If he calls I am contracted to shoving all turns, and about 2/3 of the deck are tainted cards I won't feel happy about shoving.

(b) He could very well fold his hand if all he was trying to do was to ask the question with his random pair, and if he shoves I'm not in a good spot.

(c) When people at 2nl click the min-raise post flop they tend to just always have it for some reason. I actually think if you always folded to click minraises post flop at 2nl you wouldn't be doing that badly.

Turn is a blank, and I don't feel in the mood to lead and fold to another min raise so I check call, which given that he made it half pot could be a big mistake because people usually bet close to the pot at 2nl for value and half pot if they are asking the question which is pretty exploitative so maybe I should have shoved after he bet half pot.

Then I hero folded the river vs another half pot. The main reason for this is that I've been focusing lately at 2nl to fold in big pots. It's a big leak of mine that every time I'm unsure in a big pot I call and lose lots of money, so I thought this is my time to shine and make a hero fold for once. I actually tanked pretty hard before letting it go which I don't normally do.

Sorry for the ramble but let me know if you think this logic is good or not.

Thank you!

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Hero (SB): $2.86 (143 bb)
BB: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
UTG: $2.03 (101.5 bb)
MP: $1.50 (75 bb)
CO: $2.04 (102 bb)
BTN: $1.96 (98 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
3 folds, BTN calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, BB folds, BTN calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.18) 9 J 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.12, BTN raises to $0.24, Hero calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.66) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32

River: ($1.30) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.62, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$1.30 pot ($0.05 rake)
Final Board: 9 J 4 5 K
Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$0.64 net)
BTN mucked and won $1.25 ($0.61 net)


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008

My fishy opinion is shove the flop or fold, don't be messing about chk/c and all that stuff here, it's just spewy.

Here's the way I look at these, get the money in if I think I'm ahead, get out (fold) if I don't.


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NothingIsForSho
Joined: 01.06.2014

We're 100BBs deep.

If i raise I get called by a lot of hands I crush and will play well vs me in position.

Or are you actually suggesting that I shove all in vs a 12 cent raise?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi, NothingIsForSho,
I have no problem with the fold on the river.

Definitely requires a re-raise on the flop, though.

I think a shove is overdoing it, but like gadget says -- If you're ahead, just get it in.
If he has a set, he'll let you know.

However as you say in the other thread, who the heck knows *what* they have :coolface:

Best of luck,
VS


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I dont mind raising/getting it in on flop, personally I'd flat flop tho and get in on turn now.
We keep ranges wider and there's just not many bad turn cards that i'd be scared/slow his action down. SPR is also lower on turn so we prob stack a wider range/get an extra bet from his bluffs ?(


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Originally posted by PennyStacker
I dont mind raising/getting it in on flop, personally I'd flat flop tho and get in on turn now.
We keep ranges wider and there's just not many bad turn cards that i'd be scared/slow his action down. SPR is also lower on turn so we prob stack a wider range/get an extra bet from his bluffs ?(

fwiw id prob raise get in AA/KK on the flop tho!


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kevsaf
Joined: 16.01.2009

I either get it in on the flop or reraise and shove any turn.

As played, I call the river, we only need to win 1/4


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