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[NL4] JJ in 6-handed cash-game against 4bet

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Dementophobia
Joined: 18.11.2009

** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ** (IPoker)
€4.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €4.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 0,0, Hands: 59
Seat 3: Hero ( €7.29 EUR ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 4,8, Hands: 6437
Seat 5: Player5 ( €1.75 EUR ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 27, 3B: 0, AF: 0,7, Hands: 22
Seat 6: Player6 ( €2.71 EUR ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 17, 3B: 11, AF: 2,5, Hands: 292
Seat 8: Player8 ( €4.10 EUR ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3,3, Hands: 541
Seat 10: Player10 ( €4.90 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 0,0, Hands: 59
Hero posts small blind [€0.02 EUR].
Player5 posts big blind [€0.04 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Js Jd ]
Player6 folds
Player8 raises [€0.12 EUR]
Player10 calls [€0.12 EUR]
Player1 folds
Hero raises [€0.50 EUR]
Player5 folds
Player8 raises [€1.36 EUR]
Player10 folds
Hero calls [€0.96 EUR]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, Jc, Kc ]
Hero bets [€5.81 EUR]
Player8 calls [€2.62 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]

Spoiler

Hero wins €3.19 EUR from main pot
Player8 wins €7.81 EUR from main pot
Player8 shows [Ks, Kh ]

This 4bet was a really tough spot for me, as I only had a little more than 500 hands against this 22/16 TAG. He 4bets 33% of the time, when he has the chance, but I only witnessed 12 of those occasions. The only time I saw his hole card in such a situation he was holding AQs. That's the most interesting data.

In my opinion the 3bet from my side was a must, especially with the limper in the pot. Until now he folded 50% to 3bets, but again, low sample size. His open-raise range in this situation will be something like 55+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AJo+, KJo+, which gives me 60% equity.

When I saw his 4bet I assumed a range of QQ+, AQs+, AKo. In this case I have an equity of less than 40% and I didn't expect any real fold equity against a 5bet. I decided to call and judge again on the river. If I have an over-pair or set, I get everything in there. If I miss and A,K or Q shows, I have to assume I am beaten and can fold. I also assume that he will call for the rest of his chips even if he misses the flop with AK or AQs as the odds are too good after my call.

Any comments on my train of thought? Any pointers and corrections welcome!


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Anomic
Joined: 15.01.2012

It's useful if you have 4betrange per position in your HUD because it tells you more. I would only 3b for value when I want to stack off against a 4bet. This guy seems to 4bet quite wide so I'd just shove. But Here he is MP right? I'd just call then.


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Dementophobia
Joined: 18.11.2009

Thx for your feedback. 4betrange per position is a nice stat for sure, after only 500 hands it won't tell me a lot unfortunately. Maybe I shouldn't have 3b in the first place if I don't feel happy to shove.


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Anomic
Joined: 15.01.2012

Yeah it's normally just a call pre vs an MP open, if he's stealing (CO/BU/SB) then you can stack of with JJ against most villains.


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