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Villain is 16/16 and seems like a good reg. Whats your move here? ICMizer and wizard says its fold. If we 3bet here and villain shoves, would you call?

Stacks:
UTG (23,793) 20bb
UTG+1 (2,997) 2bb
MP (4,226) 4bb
CO (2,985) 2bb
BTN Hero (19,322) 16bb
SB (10,172) 8bb
BB (4,005) 3bbBlinds: 600/1,200 Ante 75
Pre-Flop: (2,325, 7 players) Hero is BTN K♠ K♣

UTG raises to 2,400, 3 folds, Hero ?


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Lefty85
Joined: 08.06.2008

Seems like the easiest shove ever. I understand that it's not really good to call of any shove here because of ICM reasons but you have plenty of foldequity and ofcourse you are a huge favorite against his calling range so i would just shove and be extremely happy about it.

3betting with the intention of folding is just a huge mistake.


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KKNgroup
Joined: 23.02.2011

3bet shove would not be optimal move here. I think 3bet 2.5x and call villains shove would be more optimal.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

At a 45 mans final table with a flat prize structure I don’t mind to 3bet shove here.
If you 3 bet here you could get in a nasty ICM spot if he pushed against you.
Even with KK as 2nd in chips against the chip leader.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Vitols666
Joined: 13.10.2009

I would 3-bet shove.


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I actually did 3bet-shove and he suprised me with showing 3 3, as I thought his bottom calling range would be JJ+,AK. At first it was easy shove for me, but those very short stacks confused me and I wasn't sure anymore what would be the best move here. If all the stacks were nearly equal it would be easy shove for sure.

Spoiler

UTG raises to 2,400, 3 folds, Hero goes all-in 19,322, 2 folds, UTG calls 16,922

Flop: 5♥ J♠ 7♥ (40,969, 2 players), 1 all-in
Turn: 3♠
River: 7♣

UTG shows a full house, Threes full of Sevens
3♣ 3♦
Hero shows two pair, Kings and Sevens
K♠ K♣

UTG wins 40,969 (net +21,647)


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Lefty85
Joined: 08.06.2008

I'm just wondering for those who would 3-bet 2.5x in this spot, do you ever have a 3-bet fold range in this spot. Do you think villain will act differently on a 3-bet 2.5x than on a 3-bet shove? Most players that i see 3-bet 2.5x here are just bad regs with aces or kings.

If you want to be balanced, what does a 3-bet fold range looks like here against an UTG opening range. ex. 3-bet folding A-To can't be really profitable


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