TPWK in a 4bet pot

Just fold it. He 3bets you and then calls the 4bet - what bluffs does he have on this flop? Does he have A8? Will he fold AK or AJ? Will he ever bet with JJ here if he doesn't jam pre?

How much is his 5bet? From the info you give, I assume he continues after 4bet only with his top 3bet rainge. Probably he is flating everything IP. Anyway, I would just fold preflop. There are better cards to bluff 4bet, like suited A or suited connectors.

Flop is a fold. Villain does not have weaker Ax and you only beat JJ (if he pushes KK+pre).

I believe, with this sample size, you should be able to check his 3bet BTN vs CO. If it's something like 15,16 or more, with this fold to 4bet, I think 4bet bluff is fine. If it's like 12 or less, you sould probably fold. That board hits his calling range alot, probably, but I believe that with TP you should still bet half a pot and fold to a raise, with intention of giving up the turn and river. I'm not sure, though. Maybe in 4bet pot it's ok to check/fold right away.

What difference does it make if he is 3 betting 12 or 15% and is folding to 4 bet 75% over a big sample.?

Also is this 3bet % from BU, vs. HERO. We have quite big sample.

Originally posted by nitrol
What difference does it make if he is 3 betting 12 or 15% and is folding to 4 bet 75% over a big sample.?

Because 3bet BTN vs CO is a stat that needs a big sample to be rellevant. The same thing is with fold to 4bet. If he was faced 4 times with 4bets in 500 hands and folded 2 times, which conclusion could we make in this sample? That he is rarely folding to 4bets? I think that stat would be irrelevant over the small sample. With this sample, though, if he is 3beting 15% or more BTN vs CO, he probably has many bluffs there. We should also look how much does he fold to 4bet when IP. So, if he folds like 65% or more, with this sample we can conclude with the stronger certainty that we could profitably 4bet bluff A9 in this situation.

The guy is folding 75% to 4 bet over a nice sample. Isn't it auto-profit to 4 bet him to death?

Originally posted by nitrol
The guy is folding 75% to 4 bet over a nice sample. Isn't it auto-profit to 4 bet him to death?
True! But positions still matter. It would be at least worthed to see his fold to 4bet IP.

4betting is fine given his very high fold to 4bet. yea, once i checked it has to be a check/fold. But what about a cbet? is it ok if we cbet/fold 1/3 pot? is it better than X/F?

What weaker hands will call and what stronger hands will fold?