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Handling ultra-LAGs AKs in MP vs UTG limp and CO 3Bet

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

GTECH G2 (Boss) - C$0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: C3.21 (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
Hero (MP): C3.83
CO: C3.09 (VPIP: 54.17, PFR: 34.29, 3Bet Preflop: 12.24, Hands: 1,240)
BTN: C2.95 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB: C7.74 (VPIP: 31.52, PFR: 13.93, 3Bet Preflop: 4.51, Hands: 962)
BB: C3.85 (VPIP: 59.50, PFR: 5.61, 3Bet Preflop: 0.67, Hands: 1,170)

SB posts SB C0.02, BB posts BB C0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: C0.06) Hero has K♠ A♠

UTG raises to C0.08, Hero calls C0.08, CO raises to C0.30, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to C0.60, Hero raises to C3.83 and is all-in, CO calls C2.79 and is all-in, UTG calls C2.61 and is all-in

CO is the target. I know he can 3Bet/call pre with way worse, but I didn't count on a previously passive UTG getting bold.

My hand is way too strong to fold, and what is not shown is CO's v high post-flop aggression.
Calling gives him that game, shoving takes it away, but still, I'd like your opinions on this hand.

Thanks,
VS


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VaskataBuci
Joined: 08.08.2011

I also prefer just calling the UTG raise, as he seems too passive. CO squeeze is welcome. But after the 4bet from the passive UTG I would consider fold. Playing for stacks doesn't seem like some mistake though.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

After UTG 4Bets, you can fold . Your hand does not want to play mw.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010
YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Vorpal, the CO seems to be an old friend of yours (1240 hands).
Seat selection!
On his left. Not on his right.

It is a pretty small mistake (still a mistake though) to go AI. Remember, you went AI, didn't call one. The UTG may still fold hands (though unlikely). Besides, the situation isn't as bleak as it might seem if they both join. Here is one realistic scenario:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    52.68%  52.46%   0.22% { KK }
MP3    28.60%  28.38%   0.22% { AsKs }
CO     18.72%  18.59%   0.12% { TT }

Here is another one, very juicy (in a 3-player deal):

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    43.30%  43.18%   0.12% { QQ }
MP3    38.69%  38.57%   0.12% { AsKs }
CO     18.01%  17.89%   0.12% { TT }

The only one you hate is this:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    71.00%  70.52%   0.48% { AA }
MP3     9.99%   9.51%   0.48% { AsKs }
CO     19.02%  18.91%   0.11% { TT }

Besides, gambling is legal.
/Cheers


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excitedpoker
Joined: 12.08.2010

27 hands mean nothing, 55 vpip and 0 pfr doesn`t mean he`s passive but it means he is probably a pretty bad player just like CO. Vs these opponents i would be really happy to stack off AKs, you should 3bet this UTG player preflop unless you are trying to induce a squeeze.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

never really like the line to call RFI & 5B jam

UTG is min 5betting into two players after MP call and CO SQ... that should be so strong man - 99% of the time he just got it

prefer to just 3bet him preflop for value and call in position if he 4bets


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Thanks for all the comments.
I (wrongly) guessed CO as having Ax or any two broadways -- he generally tries to trap w/ QQ+
UTG I guessed as TT+, AJ+, but correctly this time. I thought if he might be induced to fold the Ax hands, and maybe TT or JJ.

As it turns out
UTG: JJ
CO: 66
I hit an A at some point.

@Yohan, Yes, I do prefer CO on my right -- but since he 3Bets so much and never (so far) calls 4Bets I just play him differently on that side.

The problem with table selection is that on this site there are very few tables available at any time.

Cheers,
VS


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