$11 Sunday Storm final table 1st hand , position 9/9

First of all I recommend to remove the outcome of the hand next time or put in a spoiler.
Than we can’t be result orientated anyway
Congratulations on the deep run in this tournament

I have first checked the prize structure of this tournament:

I would gamble with the 33 against this aggressive CO player with 33 as short stack.
It’s not to likely you can ladder up without playing a hand in a spot like this.

Nash ranges:

Based on the Nash ranges I don’t change my mind, because I don’t think the CO will raise tighter than 44.9%, 33+ Ax+ K4s+ K4o+ Q7s+ Q5s Q7o+ Q5o J7s+ J7o+ T9s T8o+ based on his aggressive stats on a low sample.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I agree with what your saying, my initial thought was Im definitely ahead of his raising range at that spot. But I prob should have take into consideration him being t he biggest stack( didnt play with him much though),those 13 hands was at last 2 tables so him being aggro as big stack is normal i guess. It only cost him 20% of his stack to call , he being top stack might even call off with A8,QJo+ . And obv with me having 33 , best is im flipping all the time.

The reason I bring this up as 2 weeks ago I came 2nd in hot 5.50 when I had 1 bb with 7 to go after losing AK<A10. I end up coming 2nd as people were making many mistakes even at FT. Being a lil result orientated, I was thinking If I could fold that and still have 1 orbit of hands to go through for a better spot. DOnt get me wrong, I will def be loving life shoving that First In. But 12bb is still playable lol in non turbo, top heavy tourney ♦

Imo, big stack will call way too often in dis spot, i prefer to fold and shove AT, QT, JT etc.. instead!

Originally posted by sabo999
Imo, big stack will call way too often in dis spot, i prefer to fold and shove AT, QT, JT etc.. instead!

Exactly what I thought as he can call wider with his stack and im flipping at best most of time for my tournament life..Close i say.

seems like w 30k up top its definitely worth it to gambol, vs initial smallish pay jumps.

13bb is barely playable (in relation to actually winning), 27bb vs fishy table and you have a good shot at winning the thing, with a top heavy payout structure and a much bigger edge with deeper stack I think this shove is correct.

Originally posted by lokiah
Hi guys , wt u guys think about my shove..not to be too result orientated but there was weaker players in that FT which I prob should had folded pre to try ladder up and find better spot?

PokerStars - $10+$1|275000/550000 Ante 55000 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 48.75 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 25)
UTG+1: 14.58 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 24)
MP: 26.96 BB (VPIP: 40.82, PFR: 34.69, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 50)
MP+1: 30.03 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 6.78, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 61)
MP+2: 42.72 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 50)
CO: 84.17 BB (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 13)
Hero (BTN): 12.9 BB
SB: 33.09 BB (VPIP: 19.81, PFR: 14.15, 3Bet Preflop: 6.98, Hands: 109)
BB: 20.62 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 50)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 3♥ 3♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 12.8 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, CO calls 10.8 BB

Flop: (28 BB, 2 players) Q♠ 9♠ 4♣

Turn: (28 BB, 2 players) A♠

River: (28 BB, 2 players) 8♠

CO shows K♠ A♥ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 32%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows 3♥ 3♣ (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 68%, Turn 2%)
CO wins 28 BB

Ok. There are my 5 cent.

SDK1987:
Thanks for a charts from HRC, but I thin we need to customize some range of 3betting, calling your 3bets, players behind us etc.

lokiah:
Ok. So you are 12 BB eff. You are the smallest stack at the table. IMO PP are great hands here.
1. you are slightly + vs 2 over cards 52%
2. When you have bigger fold equity? Now or if you are 10 or 9 BB?
3. You don't take ICM for consideration, because you are smallest stack at the table
4. If we know from cards distribution: 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,T,J,Q,K,A. In you r opinion which combination hands we will get frequent ?
I think there is no time for waiting for hands such a KQ. Mostly we will get hands like J7 or so.
5. Without antes I might think for missing this spots. But we know this player will keep pressure for others payers and he will open a lot of hands, he will fold a lot hands as well IMO