Hero in BB w/A6s vs villain in SB w/ ATS 65%

What is my CC range in that spot?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What is my 3bet range in that spot?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OR from SB=65% (we 3bet 25% of opp range)
my 3bet% = 25% of 65%= 16.25%

FT3B 66%
66% bluff range=2/3*16.25%=10%
34% value range=1/3*16.25%=5%

hey, unless u got a tonne of hands on someone or have seen them make a play in the past i tend to do it also but its best not to predict what someone will do based on expections... they may not be capable of it, they may not even be paying attention or dont care and u end up leveling yourself, but A6s isnt a bad hand to 3bet im not sure about calling 4bet as its rather large and he may cbet a tonne of flops and A6s doesnt flop all that well and hitting an ace well..... im guessing u probably call flop and turn bet which is most likely your entire stack and i dont see u being good there very often

Originally posted by danan758
hey, unless u got a tonne of hands on someone or have seen them make a play in the past i tend to do it also but its best not to predict what someone will do based on expections... they may not be capable of it, they may not even be paying attention or dont care and u end up leveling yourself, but A6s isnt a bad hand to 3bet im not sure about calling 4bet as its rather large and he may cbet a tonne of flops and A6s doesnt flop all that well and hitting an ace well..... im guessing u probably call flop and turn bet which is most likely your entire stack and i dont see u being good there very often

yes ur right

I think that this is a standard call preflop. If we 3bet, we are doing it as a bluff and should fold to a 4bet. If we think that he is 4betting wide, there are probably better candidates out there for 3bet/calling, I would say something like AQ-AJ, KQ, which dominates his 4bet bluff range. If he has a 4bet bluff range, I believe that our hand would be a good candidate for 5b/shove bluffing.

Yeah, after you decide to 3 bet - it is as a bluff and after the 4 bet you are done. Just calling the 4 bet is the worst you can do here.

yes you are right

Contradiction in your logic.

You 3bet because he opens wide and folds a lot, ok this is good. A6s probably way too strong to bluff, personally I much rather flat and dominate villains diamonds and 6x which he has a lot of. But 3bet bluffing wide is on the right point.

But then when he is folding 66% (a lot) you decide he is going to be 4bet bluffing you a lot??? This doesn't make sense really. When you 3bet bluff to make profit off him, you then spew off all the profit you make from his folds (and then some) by flat calling OOP w A6s. Nothing good will happen there, he will not put in a lot of money on Axx flops without better Ax so you're basically screwed if you hit and screwed if you miss apart from the small % you get 2p/FD.

If someone is opening wide and 4betting aggro (which there is no evidence this guy is) THEN you can start to do stuff like 3b/5b hands such as 55-22, A5s-A2s, T9s/98s.