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TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

SB is 80/30/13 lag fish w hyperwide cbets (95F, 75T) i am sure he stacks off bare AA here

totally standard PF as well as OTF (i shoved) ? can u estimate EV differences in between calling F and shoving F? (CO is the most winning reg in my base and he is deffo extremely connected w the board, hard to see how he ever folds more than 15% of range (ur estimation?)

so i was thinking abt just calling so that after CO ships (a lot) then at least BU would not fold so much as his shove is w a bit wider perceived range than mine. altho not sure this matters as BU is 70/5 passive fish

i presume w my hand i want this to go 3-4way all in, much rather than just 2way AI, i am never folding out wrap draws anyway and for others to stackoff sets / 2pair + some bad gutshots should be better for me, since they steal themselves so much equity anyways.. (?!)

also: what s the minimal positional 3bet here for u to cc PF? or u just cc vs anyone here anyday?

also a question: if we are in the spot of CO and hold sth like QQ77 and BB shoves, we just fold, right? what w QJT9?

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SB: $37.44 (74.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $61 (122 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $40.48 (81 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q K T 2
CO raises to $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, SB raises to $7.50, Hero calls $7, CO calls $5.75, BTN calls $5.75

Flop: ($30) T J 7 (4 players)
SB bets $15, Hero ?!


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I would fold preflop. To cold call 3bet oop you really want to have a strong hand. Here you have KQTds with a dangler. K-high flushdraw is decent and the other one is Q-high. Quite often if the money goes in when 4 handed you are against a better flush draw.

On this flop you are 53/47 flipping against AAxx. As you have a lot of nut outs, the more there are players in the pot the better odds you get. Raising here can make CO and BTN to fold some hands that would call that $15. You can still stack off on any turn, but to bring some (almost) dead money to the pot I would just call here.

When SPR is <2, there isn't a lot of room to make moves. Anyone who has hit the board gets it in. But with call you might get CO or BTN to come along with weak hands that increase your equity share.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Originally posted by TheLastNail
also a question: if we are in the spot of CO and hold sth like QQ77 and BB shoves, we just fold, right? what w QJT9?

QQ77 fold, QJT9 you dance a little, fistpump and get it in. :)


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TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

thx, yea, i also liked calling more, after. what is interesting, i did some calcs with tight BB shoving ranges OTF (even my hand is loose u say, so i gave only sets and wraps/ or JT98ds basically as bottom PF or TJQK) and CO w QJT9 had ~25% eq. not sure what u would need to give BB for CO to call w QJT9, seems like a fold to me.

thx for ur answers btw! :f_drink:


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