Pretty aggresive- me like it ![]()
gogogogo!
Best of luck,
Fran
Party, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $120.37 (120.4 bb)
BB: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $394.39 (394.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $166.80 (166.8 bb)
CO: $54.85 (54.9 bb)
BTN: $124.88 (124.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with Q
A![]()
UTG raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 4 folds
Flop: ($7.50) 8
9
T
(2 players)
UTG bets $3.56, Hero calls $3.56
Turn: ($14.62) J
(2 players)
UTG bets $9.26, Hero calls $9.26
River: ($33.14) 2
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $25, UTG raises to $70.99, Hero folds
Results:
$83.14 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 8
9
T
J
2
UTG mucked and won $80.14 ($39.32 net)
Hero mucked Q
A
and lost (-$40.82 net)
Villain seemingly strong reg. 34/30, 76 hands Ag 3.5.
I think this is fine though I wondered whether a good reg could assume that I don't have KQ in my flatting range in this position and conclude I can never have the nuts? Are people bluff check raising in these spots enough for me to call at nl100?
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $153.79 (153.8 bb)
BB: $107.37 (107.4 bb)
UTG: $176.55 (176.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $183.32 (183.3 bb)
CO: $116.69 (116.7 bb)
BTN: $104.40 (104.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9
K![]()
UTG raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, 4 folds
Flop: ($6.50) J
4
Q
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG raises to $13.40, Hero calls $9.90
Turn: ($33.30) 8
(2 players)
UTG bets $25, Hero calls $25
River: ($83.30) 5
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
Results:
$83.30 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: J
4
Q
8
5
UTG showed J
Q
and lost (-$40.90 net)
Hero showed 9
K
and won $80.50 ($39.60 net)
39/54 but only 19 hands. 3 Tabling Zoom 100 so assumed reg. Agression 10.0
Flop seems pretty standard to me. I guess 3betting flop out of the question this deep. Turn is also a call given implieds. River I chickened out, thinking he can fold everything here except the nfd which he should probably ch/R(?) But if I'm not betting this river then the turn call is much closer... Hmmm I think I have to bet this, right? I mean he checks sets/two pair but maybe he will bet worse flushes so we really should be ahead of his checking range nine times out of ten.
If he bets river $50 are we just calling?
3bet or fold pre imo ![]()
and if you get to the river and feel you have to check back the second nuts, surely something's gone badly wrong somewhere.
Posting purely to experiment with new smileys.
Originally posted by jbpatzer
3bet or fold pre imo
[Yes, although he's opening pretty wide and we do have position with a sexy hand. But itlr, you're prolly right.]and if you get to the river and feel you have to check back the second nuts, surely something's gone badly wrong somewhere.
[Yes, I hate myself a lot. Wtf am I doing? Just the clearest bet/and evaluate in the world]Posting purely to experiment with new smileys.
[Noted
have a great evening, mate]
First foray into the wonderful world of Zoom 200nl:
Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $266.45 (133.2 bb)
BB: $203 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $248.20 (124.1 bb)
MP: $215.74 (107.9 bb)
CO: $207.23 (103.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $324.24 (162.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6
K![]()
2 folds, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, CO calls $6
Flop: ($23) 6
Q
K
(2 players)
CO bets $10.98, Hero calls $10.98
Turn: ($44.96) 3
(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $21.47, CO raises to $50, Hero calls $28.53
River: ($144.96) 9
(2 players)
CO bets $136.25, Hero calls $136.25
Results:
$417.46 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6
Q
K
3
9
CO showed A
T
and lost (-$207.23 net)
Hero showed 6
K
and won $414.66 ($207.43 net)
Dunno if this standard postflop. I guess if it is that we have a pretty easy call off even without the flush...
Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $466.86 (233.4 bb)
BB: $577.64 (288.8 bb)
UTG: $200 (100 bb)
MP: $284.20 (142.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $333.54 (166.8 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q
Q![]()
2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB folds, BB calls $3
Flop: ($16) K
2
T
(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10.08, BTN folds, BB raises to $28, Hero calls $17.92
Turn: ($72) 9
(2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22
River: ($116) 4
(2 players)
BB bets $38, Hero raises to $278.54 and is all-in, BB folds
Villain: 32/34, 3b 6.3., 70 hands.
I'm not sure about flop; we block the most obvious draw in which case maybe I can just fold right away? Turn is fine for price.
OTR, I think we do a good job of repping QJ which we'd play exactly this way. Villain looks like he can't have better than KT here and actually it looks more like AK/KQ/JK from sizing. My huge river sizing looks pretty unbalanced, however. I guess QJ is the same as KK/TT here, though since it doesn't look like he can ever have any of those holdings...
Grateful for anyone's opinion on this hand.
Hi, Tim64!
His T & R bets look like either blocking bets or trap set-ups.
Do you need to put up your entire stack OTR to find out which?
Note: This limit is way above my pay grade!
Cheers,
VS
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Do you need to put up your entire stack OTR to find out which?
No, I don't think we do. Our raise just needs to be big enough to offer a genuine disincentive to calling.
However I'd be surprised if villain is trapping that much. Our hand looks like a good top pair but not much better (until we raise the river) so I think he'll be missing value most of the time by betting so small, if in fact he has a hand strong enough to induce. So I think it's heavily weighted towards block bets with strong but non nutted hands. But all that means, as you say, that he should be planning on folding to any decent river raise, in which case my shove is a sledgehammer vs nut situation!
Fun Cash Challenge: NL2 - NL200 in a day!?
Task: Make 100 EV bb at each limit, starting with NL2, and then move up.
Playing: Zoom 6mx, 2 Tables.
NOTE: This is not safe BRM - it's just for fun!
I'll post $ graphs from each limit, as well as basic stats and one interesting/big hand from each limit. Off we go!
NL2, done:

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $3.97 (198.5 bb)
BB: $2.29 (114.5 bb)
UTG: $2.42 (121 bb)
MP: $2.07 (103.5 bb)
CO: $1.19 (59.5 bb)
BTN: $2.84 (142 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q
A![]()
UTG raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, BB folds, UTG calls $0.11
Flop: ($0.36) K
J
T
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.24, UTG raises to $0.72, Hero raises to $3.80 and is all-in, UTG calls $1.53 and is all-in
Turn: ($4.86) 6
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($4.86) 5
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Results:
$4.86 pot ($0.17 rake)
Final Board: K
J
T
6
5
Hero showed Q
A
and won $4.69 ($2.27 net)
UTG showed J
J
and lost (-$2.42 net)

Ez game when you make the nuts, I guess, but I think he overplays it somewhat. Next stop NL5!
Phew! That was bl**dy hard work on NL5. That limit is no fun for all you guys trying to grind out bankrolls at the low limits, so props to you!

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $0.75 (15 bb)
BB: $7.45 (149 bb)
UTG: $12.02 (240.4 bb)
MP: $4.94 (98.8 bb)
CO: $5.12 (102.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5.20 (104 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A
K![]()
UTG calls $0.05, MP folds, CO raises to $0.22, Hero raises to $0.41, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.36, CO calls $0.19
Flop: ($1.30) 7
9
9
(3 players)
UTG bets $0.30, CO folds, Hero calls $0.30
Turn: ($1.90) 6
(2 players)
UTG bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.44, UTG calls $0.84
River: ($4.78) 4
(2 players)
UTG bets $2.20, Hero calls $2.20
Results:
$9.18 pot ($0.38 rake)
Final Board: 7
9
9
6
4
UTG showed 5
A
and lost (-$4.35 net)
Hero showed A
K
and won $8.80 ($4.45 net)

Next stop NL10 - Hope it doesn't take another 4 hours grinding to get to NL25
Back on Track! NL10

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $29.10 (291 bb)
BB: $12.01 (120.1 bb)
Hero (UTG): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
MP: $10.40 (104 bb)
CO: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BTN: $13.18 (131.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q
A![]()
Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.25, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.65) 8
3
K
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.26, BTN calls $0.26
Turn: ($1.17) A
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BTN calls $0.50
River: ($2.17) A
(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90
Results:
$3.97 pot ($0.18 rake)
Final Board: 8
3
K
A
A
Hero showed Q
A
and won $3.79 ($1.88 net)
BTN showed K
Q
and lost (-$1.91 net)
This is a pretty nonstandard line, otr. We have a choice of betting to fold out all villain's bluffs and forcing him to decide whether to hero fold his Kx, or letting him bluff his missed draws and "incorrectly" valuebet worse, as in this case. Long term, for balance, we want to bet this river but once in a while it's ok to change it up. I'm ok with villain's line although normally when someone bets the obvious scare card on the turn, he either has the hand he's repping, or he's bluffing. So I'm not sure how much value there is vs worse, here.

So, with NL2/NL5/NL10 beaten, we're halfway there though I'm running out of time...
NL25 Crushed in 70 hands:

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $40.84 (163.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $32.20 (128.8 bb)
UTG: $43.99 (176 bb)
MP: $46.11 (184.4 bb)
CO: $39.16 (156.6 bb)
BTN: $2.60 (10.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q
9![]()
4 folds, SB raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.25
Flop: ($1) J
Q
9
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($1) J
(2 players)
SB bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75
River: ($2.50) J
(2 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50
Results:
$5.50 pot ($0.25 rake)
Final Board: J
Q
9
J
J
SB showed 3
4
and lost (-$2.75 net)
Hero showed Q
9
and won $5.25 ($2.50 net)
Max value! ![]()

Feeling more confident of my chances of getting to NL200 by tonight, though it will be tight. 50/50, maybe
Let's hope NL50 goes just as smoothly...
Currently stuck at NL50, might have to carry on tomorrow - getting tired now - what a wuss!