Hi guys, member WilliamBoo posted this hand in the Hand Discusssion Threads, I thought it would give a very nice highlight example. Thanks William for posting and you for participating.
So here is the hand:
Originally posted by WilliamBoo
Hi! This villain doesn't fold a lot against cbets and tends to raise them. I did a x/r because a i want him to fold instead of me in an air vs air situation. What do you think?
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.SB: $19.75 (79 bb)
BB: $29.74 (119 bb)
MP1: $25.55 (102.2 bb)
Hero (MP2): $27.10 (108.4 bb)
MP3: $26.24 (105 bb)
CO: $30.22 (120.9 bb)
BTN: $59.51 (238 bb)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A
J
MP1 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.75, 2 foldsFlop: ($1.85) T
9
8
(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.17, Hero raises to $3.51, BTN raises to $8.20, Hero foldsResults:
Spoiler
$8.87 pot ($0.40 rake)
Final Board: T9
8
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Hero mucked AJ
and lost (-$4.26 net)
BTN mucked and won $8.47 ($4.21 net)
The main point I want to make in this hand is this: just saying "let's do "X" do make villain fold his air" is not going far enough in our thought process. We have to think a bit harder on villain's pre flop call range + his bet/fold range in this board in particular.
So, Villain called BU vs MP2, a decent pre flop range would be: QQ,JJ,TT,99,88,77,AK,AQ,AJ,ATs,KQ,KJs,QJs,JTs,T9s
This is a range that it's also supported by the stats we have on villain. So, what type of hands are really "air" in this flop situation? Not much... Villain really does have a very strong range in this board (which should make us check 100% on the flop, but this is off topic), 88/99/TT/QJs/T9s/JTs/JJ/QQ/even KJs are not hands that villain will fold or that we will do well against. Arguably the only hands that villain might bet/fold are AK/AQ (if he bets them at all).
So, we've gone from a "let's check/raise to make him fold his air" to "he really does not have much air to fold, so maybe a x/f is in order"
I also want to adress another topic about this hand. This is, in my opinion, a nice example of misusing stats. First of all, I think this 1.2k hand sample is too small to be looking at raise cbet stat, specially given the FR format and the low VPIP (less post flop situations).
Secondly, I really believe that looking at this sort of stat should be in the bottom of our "to do list" regarding playing this situation well. It gives the false impression that you're doing something useful to help you decide the best play when in reality it helps you very very very little and even prevents you from thinking about more useful stuff, like the one we talked above.
So, as a conclusion:

[*] We have to think about villain's range and figure out what exactly is his "air", and if it's a big part or a small part
[*] Calling ranges against early position hit very well high card boards, and we should not expect too many folds in that case, so caution is the rule of thumb
[*] Stats should be used in context with everything else, they don't help you in isolation
Question: Is this a good exploitative spot to check/raise hands like QJs or top set?



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