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WCOOP-59: $215 NL Omaha Hi/Lo [6-Max], $100K Guaranteed

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profek20
Joined: 02.05.2009

190 left , 114 itm.

My hand is bad to play postflop so i decided to limp/shove.
If someone raise me he will so often fold vs my all in , so i think its big autoprofit.
Even if donk call me like here he will be often behind. There additional player called and give me much higher pot to steal.

If someone shove i fold
if someone raise huge sizing i fold
if someone raise normal sizing i shove

Well played?

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/16035378_142597329B


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I’m pretty much clueless about NLO8 tournaments and I expect members in the Omaha section can help you better. So I moved it to the Omaha hand discussion board.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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profek20
Joined: 02.05.2009

Topic dead. It is not suprise for me ^^

Bye.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

There are two problems. First, you don't have the hand history visible. People are really lazy to click links (which is sad). Second, it's hi-lo and tournament. Not many of us have actually studied and thought about PLO/PLO8 MTT enough to comment here.

In the hand, when player 3 pots preflop he isn't going to fold imo. Shove isn't good as you are basicly fighting only for half of the pot and you are never crushing anyone. Call, and see the flop. SPR is 2 and 4 and you are looking for a flop that has 2+ high cards.

Preflop you have around 55% overall equity. I would limp-call and play small ball. You have 60bb stack and bubble is far away, no need to take 55/45 flip here.


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akashra
Joined: 05.10.2015

I like the shove being a 56% favorite vs. A2xx, 66% fav vs. AKKx, and 61% fav vs. AKK$L ($L being a low card).

Simplify it. It's a nice +EV spot. Take it. I don't agree that player 3's not folding often there to the reshove. Although after player 3 raises after a limp, he's folding less often - there's still plenty of chips there to accomodate a good amount of fold equity but really who cares. When called as pointed out (A2xx, AKKx, AKKL, AQQL, A23.. etc, etc..) were a solid Equity favorite in a game where equities run a bit closer together except for the super slim chance he has AA as well. Well this textbox is acting quarky and I'm multitabling atm so essentially I like the play..


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FlyingDutchm1n
Joined: 21.08.2012

I would also say convert the hand into a proper hand history format first.

Other than that, you can get your equity edge guaranteed here because it is NLO. If you want to go for first and are willing to accept the variance in these spots, this is also the right play of taking every equity edge you can get. I don't know if I like the limp-shove your hand is pretty much face up, I would have raised personally and then see if I get called or raised. I think I am generally just not a 60bb limp shove kind of guy, perhaps with an additional low card in your AA hand you would have been in much better shape and you would have more equity and less variance.

Limping AA then flatting a raise I am not a big fan off, even with a 2+ hi-card (not making any lows so higher than 8) flop you will not necessarily know where you stand with your AA either so that doesn't sound so appealing to me, apart from the fact that hitting a 2 or 3 highcard flop happens the MINORITY of the time and I generally don't like to hope for things to happen that only happen the minority of the time. Taking your equity edge albeit small is at least guaranteed, but don't be surprised about the variance you encounter (which you should actually not be when you choose to play NLO in the first place). GL


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

In cash games +0.01bb EV profit is enough to make the play, but in tournaments it's different. If we don't have edge in skill over the table/field, then taking any +EV spot is good. But if we have good edge against our opponents, should we really risk our tournament life for small +EV spot? Our overall EV in tournament might be better if we don't take "unnecessary" flips.


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