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2nd pair OOP vs Fish, Squeze pot.

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negritolindo0
Joined: 06.01.2010

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $16.51 (165.1 bb)
Hero (BB): $12.58 (125.8 bb)
UTG: $13.77 (137.7 bb)
MP: $12.19 (121.9 bb)
CO: $5.06 (50.6 bb)
BTN: $28.13 (281.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.30, UTG calls $1, SB folds

Flop: ($2.90) 6 8 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($2.90) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.45, UTG calls $1.45

River: ($5.80) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3.90, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$5.80 pot ($0.32 rake)
Final Board: 6 8 Q 8 Q
Hero mucked J J and lost (-$2.75 net)
UTG mucked and won $5.48 ($2.73 net)

Villian fish 39/24 agg:42, wts:35, foldToCbet: 14. in 225 hands

Preflop: Squeze for value

Flop: very dry board, i think i could make a cbet here cause he is very fish. My intention was to x/c

Turn: delayed cbet

River: my intention was the same as the flop, play x/c. but his bet is too large, if it had been shorter, i had called. when someone bet so large in the river i consider it very strong. or do you think it is better to fire another barrel here?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I wouldn't 3bet pre. Otherwise well played imo.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Preflop squeeze seems reasonable. But you should have continuted otf. Overpairs beat you (i don't think he got one), so only flushes, trips and bluffs. You could've betted small in order to induce crying call from low and medium pocket pairs.


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

as played i think i am bet folding otr. Like 1/3 of the pot maybe vs this guy.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I like the squeeze. We can cbet on flop. I doubt we can achieve anything with a bet on the river.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

I think we have the best hand very often on the turn, so I like betting. It's tricky on the river, but his play indicates that he has something like a midlle pair (TT, 99, 77) and I don't think he would turn those into a bluff because would be affraid of Qx or a flush. So, I would just check/fold and expect to be good quite often.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by Alleen86
I think we have the best hand very often on the turn, so I like betting. It's tricky on the river, but his play indicates that he has something like a midlle pair (TT, 99, 77) and I don't think he would turn those into a bluff because would be affraid of Qx or a flush. So, I would just check/fold and expect to be good quite often.

It makes no sense...


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by Berezovaya

Originally posted by Alleen86
I think we have the best hand very often on the turn, so I like betting. It's tricky on the river, but his play indicates that he has something like a midlle pair (TT, 99, 77) and I don't think he would turn those into a bluff because would be affraid of Qx or a flush. So, I would just check/fold and expect to be good quite often.

It makes no sense...

Which part?


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Tinsley15
Joined: 18.07.2013

he is not raising his set of 8 when second spade came ott...he bets his fh/fd with pretty big sizing otr. i doubt this guy know much about polarizing so it looks like that he wants to kick out you from the hand when he bets, and you gave him a reason by checking ott..it lloks like we arer beaten but actualy i dont think, reason why i would bet like 30to50 otr vs this guy


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mkjmkjmkj
Joined: 05.02.2012

i think its a call he can bluff all pocket pairs under the 8 and som A high he calls on the turn
he is likely to bet a decent amount of he qeuens and FD on the flop and he might not bet a Flush on the river and the bet might be smaller with a flush since its thin
you also block some flushes. with Js
and even if he is a fish he shouldnt have that many 8 in his range 39 vpip isnt that loose


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by Berezovaya

Originally posted by Alleen86
I think we have the best hand very often on the turn, so I like betting. It's tricky on the river, but his play indicates that he has something like a midlle pair (TT, 99, 77) and I don't think he would turn those into a bluff because would be affraid of Qx or a flush. So, I would just check/fold and expect to be good quite often.

It makes no sense...

Which part?

The whole post is contradictory... :)


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mkjmkjmkj
Joined: 05.02.2012

i see the second spade came on the turn then its probably close


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by Berezovaya

Originally posted by Alleen86
I think we have the best hand very often on the turn, so I like betting. It's tricky on the river, but his play indicates that he has something like a midlle pair (TT, 99, 77) and I don't think he would turn those into a bluff because would be affraid of Qx or a flush. So, I would just check/fold and expect to be good quite often.

It makes no sense...

Which part?

Read it carefully, no offense though, if I did understand despite of bugs correctly you want to x/c in order to catch a bluff (?)


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by Berezovaya

Originally posted by Alleen86

Originally posted by Berezovaya

Originally posted by Alleen86
I think we have the best hand very often on the turn, so I like betting. It's tricky on the river, but his play indicates that he has something like a midlle pair (TT, 99, 77) and I don't think he would turn those into a bluff because would be affraid of Qx or a flush. So, I would just check/fold and expect to be good quite often.

It makes no sense...

Which part?

Read it carefully, no offense though, if I did understand despite of bugs correctly you want to x/c in order to catch a bluff (?)

I would check/fold and expect him to check back very often where we will win the pot. I'm sorry because of bugs, I'm not a native english speaker and my english is not even near to perfect.


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