martinstids, look at his stats... he does not look crazy at all.
And u have to remember, even AA are still a "pair". QT here are already way ahead us.
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Originally posted by nitrol
Originally posted by Afulibador
Originally posted by Alleen86
Originally posted by nitrol
Or even looser- above 50 vpip and a solid gap between vpip and pfr...Yeah, probably. I'm not sure of exact numbers, but the player should be out of the line.
I think aggressiveness posflop is way more important than looseness.
For what pleno1 advocates work, the guy need to stab. A guy who is somewhat loose, but not that aggressive... this might not work.ok, but still villain has to be with a very wide range.
Yes, a wide range is needed.
Originally posted by nitrol
Originally posted by Afulibador
Originally posted by Alleen86
Something which I also have to remind myself is that we should use that fact vs regulars and semi-bluff or bluff raise turns quite often at right spots.I m still trying to find that sweet spot. Sometimes I do this too much, sometimes way too little.
Any tip?Whatch you opponents closely.
I was looking for a tip in a sense of the best hands in range to do that.
Originally posted by Afulibador
Originally posted by Alleen86
Something which I also have to remind myself is that we should use that fact vs regulars and semi-bluff or bluff raise turns quite often at right spots.I m still trying to find that sweet spot. Sometimes I do this too much, sometimes way too little.
Any tip?
Not unfortunatelly, I'm folding turns too much atm. I believe we should have a good sample in which he folds alot in those spots in which case we could be quite wide with our bluffs and/or have a semi-bluff and exploit the population read that the regs will overfold those spots.
Originally posted by Afulibador
I see... u mean looking at the board textures guys are folding more?
If they overfold, a board texture is probably not important too much, but I guess that dry boards might even be better because they can't put you on a draw and they don't have a draw they might be villing to call with (although they might know that raising dry boards with strong hands doesn't make sense, so they might not give up). When we will have a draw, it's natural that the board would be more drawy. Generally, we raise drawy boards more often than dry ones.
My fellow posters are assigning a loose range and villain is deep, but CO raises to $0.08, is he not giving away the strength of his hand? It is not a steal. Thoughts?
Opening for 4bb doesn't always give away strength. There are still players opening 4bb from every position.
If see him opening for 2-3bb and once in a while for 4+bb then it can be a tell.
Originally posted by Alleen86
Originally posted by Afulibador
Originally posted by Alleen86
Something which I also have to remind myself is that we should use that fact vs regulars and semi-bluff or bluff raise turns quite often at right spots.I m still trying to find that sweet spot. Sometimes I do this too much, sometimes way too little.
Any tip?Not unfortunatelly, I'm folding turns too much atm. I believe we should have a good sample in which he folds alot in those spots in which case we could be quite wide with our bluffs and/or have a semi-bluff and exploit the population read that the regs will overfold those spots.
Yes, me too. I think most of people fold turn cards a lot. Reason is simply because we are being taught you mostly raise there for value, not often as a bluff. Makes much sense to me 
Originally posted by Alleen86
Originally posted by Afulibador
I see... u mean looking at the board textures guys are folding more?If they overfold, a board texture is probably not important too much, but I guess that dry boards might even be better because they can't put you on a draw and they don't have a draw they might be villing to call with (although they might know that raising dry boards with strong hands doesn't make sense, so they might not give up). When we will have a draw, it's natural that the board would be more drawy. Generally, we raise drawy boards more often than dry ones.
This really makes sense. In a dry board u dont have draws to give villain the hope he is ahead. Even when this raising doesnt make much sense, as u mentioned, I think this can still be good vs these guys overfolding on turns. The reason is, as u can see for urself, its common guys just close their eyes and follow baluga theorem (which still correct in most cases).
And still, following Baluga is not incorrect. Especially if it's NL2. The whole theory is based on fish doing this, assuming fish, not proper poker logic "They call flop to not scare us, they raise the turn because they got scared to get cracked." I've seen a couple of hands where they had air or some weak draws, but those were times when I myself didn't play disciplined and called with my overpair or bottom-2.
I think, again, as Baluga states it, that it's just not worth the risk to try and catch these guys when they pull off the occasional bluff, because most of the times, the re-raise is going to force to play for at least 50% of our stack, which often leaves us commited OTR. Villains are almost always polarised in these spots (2pair+ or air, maybe some silly draw), and all we can do, is take the shot when we hit top2 or something like that and just take the variance. Same thing goes to unknown/solid players (Who are also playing according to NL2 level). So they use the occasional chance to try and bluff us. We just widen our range a bit, say shoving or calling w/bottom2 and AA, because we are fish and never want to fold'em . If at some time we get a read, that villain is bluffing at these spots (and he's not fish, who's just randomspazzing crap), we can start to adjust - calling those turn raises even wider or messing with them by starting overbetting flops or shenanigans like that, which is not a good idea to get yourself out of NL2. I think NL10 starts to become a more appropriate place for considering such moves (where you could start to try identifying bad regs from good regs). As long as you are not there: Be mindful who you are aggainst, and remember to valuebet the s**t out of those ATMs 
Originally posted by Alleen86
Originally posted by Afulibador
I see... u mean looking at the board textures guys are folding more?If they overfold, a board texture is probably not important too much, but I guess that dry boards might even be better because they can't put you on a draw and they don't have a draw they might be villing to call with (although they might know that raising dry boards with strong hands doesn't make sense, so they might not give up). When we will have a draw, it's natural that the board would be more drawy. Generally, we raise drawy boards more often than dry ones.
"I know that he knows that I must think that he thinks about poker maybe decently or a bit better" is like this sounded to me Micros are the place where we can focus on our game and be pretty confident about the skill range of our opponents (decent at best). NL50+ guys who played more than 1k hands with you is the place where meta kicks in IMO.
Originally posted by Pichux
They call flop to not scare us, they raise the turn because they got scared to get cracked.
Not just that. At the end of the day, they want to get paid by their big hands. They call flop to not scare us, they raise turn to increase the pot, for value, so they can move stacks in on the river.