In order to call turn profitable you must definitely be innovative on the river. This is an easy bluff spot for me. I'd bet 60% of the pot and expect 50% folds.
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Originally posted by Tomaloc
what good things are you expecting to happen? we lose most of the time on blanks (either because he bets or just because he has a better hand), 9 is not fun, not even K is very exciting.
and here the A comes and we have to consider turning the hand into a bluff. the whole thing doesnt really look very profitable to me
I have to agree. And the king is one out that I didnt considered that bad before, but is truth that is not doing great in our favour. To play just the cards, we really dont have a call on the turn.
Originally posted by YohanN7
In order to call turn profitable you must definitely be innovative on the river. This is an easy bluff spot for me. I'd bet 60% of the pot and expect 50% folds.
Vs a tight opponent I m with u, but against this loose opponent... I think its a optimistic thought.
I red the board wrong. I think its close to bluff or not to on the river. Villain can have Kx but I think most fish dont trap here because they are so exited of having the nuts. If I would bluff I would make it 60-70%
In game sometime, I know, you will decide that Im totally lost the plot, but seems that you can feel the spot and in particular you can almost be right vs villain in a sense (maybe due the info your brain collect even when you are not involve directly in the hand) that you know he will fold unless he hasn't the K (obv the K is ref to this specific spot) and I felt he will not check the River because he hasn't the same processing thinking that may have some1 that make some works away from the tables ...
For example,
I don't believe that villain in that spot was thinking, "if I bet he will fold vs anything that isn't a K",
I think his think processing is almost
"I will bet, I got the nutz (if holding a K) want his money"
or ...
"I will bet, I got the nutz (if holding a K) I want avoid a check back"
In the reality, we bet for value as follow:
value
bluff
I don't have value vs many Q, J and also A etc. so, surrendering myself or try to make fold his TP?
I know, at those limits my processing thinking is wrong in the long run, I agree with that, maybe such thinking would be better at a high limits but, anyway, thanks for your thoughts, they helped!
TY 
Originally posted by tukioppilas62
I red the board wrong. I think its close to bluff or not to on the river. Villain can have Kx but I think most fish dont trap here because they are so exited of having the nuts. If I would bluff I would make it 60-70%
Exactly what I was try to say, thank you! 
Originally posted by kiromanAAKK
In game sometime, I know, you will decide that Im totally lost the plot, but seems that you can feel the spot and in particular you can almost be right vs villain in a sense (maybe due the info your brain collect even when you are not involve directly in the hand) that you know he will fold unless he hasn't the K (obv the K is ref to this specific spot) and I felt he will not check the River because he hasn't the same processing thinking that may have some1 that make some works away from the tables ...For example,
I think his think processing is almost
or ...
I agree they think like this.
But after they check their non-nut hand and u bet, they think:
"U know what... I ll call that sh!%"
Them u loses ur money.
Originally posted by Afulibador
I agree they think like this.
But after they check their non-nut hand and u bet, they think:"U know what... I ll call that sh!%"
Them u loses ur money.
Also, very true!