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TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Today we had an epic coaching imo. First of all we had tons of interesting hands to talk about. Second: there was a nice fish on the table who started to flame me. The listeners and me where answering in a very friendly manner and we asked him for a Hu match. Unfortunatly he refused that offer, even after 20 minutes of friendly invites.

Well, anyway, back to topic. We had a very interesting hand I wanna talk about.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Albu Hyatt ($14.85)
UTG+1 Dieight ($25.85)
CO Hero ($81.50)
BTN SoniaVachon ($64.80)
SB Astra656 ($15.35)
BB mcneth87 ($33.80)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO 6♣ 6♠
Albu Hyatt calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.10, SoniaVachon raises to $3.90, 2 folds, Albu Hyatt folds, Hero calls $2.80

Flop: 7♥ 4♣ 5♦ ($8.40, 2 players)
Hero checks, SoniaVachon checks

Turn: T♥ ($8.40, 2 players)
Hero bets $6, SoniaVachon calls $6

River: 6♦ ($20.40, 2 players)
Hero bets $13, SoniaVachon raises to $54.90, Hero folds

Final Pot: $88.30

SoniaVachon wins $86 ( won +$21.20 )
Albu Hyatt lost -$0.25
Hero lost -$22.90

Our opponent was a kinda solid tag.

The preflop call is standard because we are so deep. We hit a good board and our plan is to c/c. We do not donk becausde we don't want to get raised. As he checked behind the flop I thought my hand is probably good and bet out on the turn. So far, so standard. Now: The river brings the set and we have 2 options: b/f or c/c.

Let's think about the handrange of our opponent. Preflop range: AQ+, 22+??, 67+??? that is the question, what is he 3betting with. Well, I would tend to the tighter side but we don't know.
I would take into consideration that he can have any set on this flop and he might have the straight.

Now: With what hands is he calling a bet on the river? I think he is calling any set and maybe an overpair, if he played it that way. Furthermore he might call with 2 pairs. He is raising the straight and maybe a set of tens. So actually there are just a few hands that he would raise and we don't beat any of them.

--> b/f

After thinking about it I think I took the right line, because there is still value and we can sefely fold to a raise. If he is a very good player and willing to risk a lot he might bluff raise us, but I don't think he is.

problem: 89 is so unlikely, because he had to call a gut shot on the turn. 68 is unlikely because we have 66. raising a hand that's not making the straight would be sick.

anyway: tough spot!

This is the chat log as I waited for the fish:

FTP Advisor: See how you stack up with
our Tournament and Sit & Go
Leaderboards.
TribunCaesar: I am waiting
Dealer: Hand #9851190593
Dealer: Hand #9851190593 has been
canceled
agony123: i jsut wanted
agony123: to say i love u
KJ_in_Blau (Observer): lol
petermuflon (Observer): lol
TribunCaesar: lol
sunybli: i love u 2
KJ_in_Blau: #3


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

On sunday we had another interesting and profitable session. Herre are 2 of the most interesting hands:

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ROQMAN ($60.50)
BTN Hero ($52.45)
SB Pannenkoek ($53.60)
BB AsuntosII ($21.95)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 4 players) Hero is BTN J♦ 4♦
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, Pannenkoek calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: 4♣ 7♦ 3♠ ($1.95, 2 players)
Pannenkoek checks, Hero bets $1.25, Pannenkoek calls $1.25

Turn: Q♦ ($4.45, 2 players)
Pannenkoek checks, Hero bets $3, Pannenkoek calls $3

River: A♠ ($10.45, 2 players)
Pannenkoek checks, Hero bets $6.25, Pannenkoek calls $6.25

Final Pot: $22.95
Hero shows: J♦ 4♦
Pannenkoek shows: 8♣ 8♠

Pannenkoek wins $21.85 ( won +$10.50 )
Hero lost -$11.35

I made a pretty loose steal here and flopped a pair. Cbet is standard as well as turn bet is. We got more outs and we still have fold equity. On the river however our hand didn't improve. I decided to turn my hand into a bluff because I thought Villlain can't be very strong, otherwise he would have raised me somewhere, but he probably has my 4 beat. I put him on a 7. Unfortunatly he wasn't able to lay he pair of 8s down.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG jamseybear ($11.95)
UTG+1 devo_013 ($56.55)
CO Hero ($28.65)
BTN horseplyr ($24.65)
SB 69JohnGalt69 ($39.15)
BB Fjodor F Fjodor ($47.85)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is CO 5♦ 7♦
jamseybear calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.10, 2 folds, Fjodor F Fjodor calls $0.85, jamseybear calls $0.85

Flop: 9♦ 8♦ J♥ ($3.40, 3 players)
Fjodor F Fjodor bets $2.50, jamseybear calls $2.50, Hero raises to $9.50, Fjodor F Fjodor folds, jamseybear raises to $10.85, Hero calls $1.35

Turn: A♥ ($27.60, 2 players)

River: 7♣ ($27.60, 2 players)

Final Pot: $27.60
jamseybear shows: Q♦ K♦
Hero shows: 5♦ 7♦

Hero wins $26.25 ( won +$14.30 )
Fjodor F Fjodor lost -$3.60
jamseybear lost -$11.95

We had some agruments about this hand in the coaching. Some listeneres said I would never get it in good here. I disagree with that. I think we will get it in good most of the times. We obv. have a monster draw and have outs against everybody.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

115,830 games 0.002 secs 57,915,000 games/sec

Board: 8d 9d Jh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.362% 43.76% 00.60% 50692 692.00 { 7d5d }
Hand 1: 55.638% 55.04% 00.60% 63754 692.00 { QQ-88, AJs, KdQd, KJs, KdTd, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, AJo, KJo, QTo+, J9o+, T9o, 98o }

Against this pretty strong range we get the odds to get it in because of some dead money.


FZ676
Joined: 05.11.2006

post, nice coaching, thx


darkonebg
Joined: 17.01.2008

I felt sorry for you so I decided to post
Nah, really I do love your coachings, even though Im rarely learning anything new atm, they did help me in the past, and its fun even now.
Keep luckboxing!:)


Instinctively
Joined: 02.12.2008

this coaching was just so fast over, your explanations were great as always, i realy enjoyed it, you do a very good job.


Tribun's luckboxed some profit again!

P.S. /jk of course, waiting for hands to put comment on


Instinctively
Joined: 02.12.2008

hitmachine strikes back!

but great coaching as always,
i hope you'll find a good looking girl for the mooonyz you won


TribunCaesar
Joined: 29.04.2007

Yesterday we had one of the best sessions ever imo.

[ ]sustainable

The biggest pot we lost was with 99 in a reraised pot for $7 bucks.

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG YouBetISho0ve ($24.55)
CO Hero ($26.55)
BTN Le Rocket ($24.65)
SB go djj ($25.10)
BB Tribrok ($24.65)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is CO 5♥ 4♥
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Tribrok calls $0.60

Flop: 7♥ 8♥ K♥ ($1.80, 2 players)
Tribrok checks, Hero bets $1.50, Tribrok calls $1.50

Turn: 8♦ ($4.80, 2 players)
Tribrok checks, Hero bets $4, Tribrok calls $4

River: T♣ ($12.80, 2 players)
Tribrok checks, Hero bets $8.25, Tribrok calls $8.25

Final Pot: $29.30
Tribrok shows: K♣ T♥
Hero shows: 5♥ 4♥

Hero wins $27.85 ( won +$13.25 )
Tribrok lost -$14.60

This hand is about bet sizing. I just want you to show how important it is to bet big to extract maximum value. Afterwards I would even bet the river slightly bigger. But to build a big pot flop and turn bets are important. Bet big for max value!!!

How to hit quads when you need them:

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG clem8clem8clem ($45.20)
UTG+1 Tribrok ($48.10)
CO snale_mikael ($26.80)
BTN Lurejus ($29.40)
SB Hero ($29.50)
BB Agooner ($22.40)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 6 players) Hero is SB K♠ K♥
1 fold, Tribrok raises to $1.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.80, 1 fold, Tribrok raises to $11.65, Hero raises to $29.50, Tribrok calls $17.85

Flop: K♦ Q♠ A♣ ($59.25, 2 players)

Turn: 3♥ ($59.25, 2 players)

River: K♣ ($59.25, 2 players)

Final Pot: $59.25
Tribrok shows: A♦ A♥
Hero shows: K♠ K♥

Hero wins $56.30 ( won +$26.80 )
Tribrok lost -$29.50