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Pocket Kings facing an Ace on the Turn

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Bazarov62
Joined: 14.11.2014

Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $3.22 (161 bb)
BB: $3.18 (159 bb)
UTG+1: $2.54 (127 bb)
UTG+2: $2 (100 bb)
MP1: $2.25 (112.5 bb)
MP2: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
MP3: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $2 (100 bb)
BTN: $1.62 (81 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.04, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, BTN folds, SB calls $0.11, BB folds, MP2 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.38) 8 Q 3 (3 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.27, SB calls $0.27, MP2 folds

Turn: ($0.92) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.92) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $0.44, Hero calls $0.44

I can't see any value from betting the turn as even if the flush hits on the river is any worse hand likely to pay off, but really have no idea how to play the turn and river in this spot. Appreciate any advice.

Baz62

Results:

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$1.80 pot ($0.09 rake)
Final Board: 8 Q 3 A 9
SB showed 3 3 and won $1.71 ($0.88 net)
Hero mucked K K and lost (-$0.83 net)


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kriko92
Joined: 16.11.2010

What range do you give him on the flop when he calls you? What range do you think he bets on the river? I can tell you my opinion outright but I don't think it will be very helpful that way.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Flush got there and we hold the highest possible card, Ax beat us, I am not calling.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Fish minraises pre -> I would 3bet bigger. Flush got there and Ax beats us. I think it is better to fold OTR. I don't think villain will be betting Qx here very often.


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Jaissica
Joined: 10.02.2009

Easy barrel OTT from position. Plenty of hands that could call the flop can call the turn, and some of them are doing so with big negative implieds (all of QT, QJ, QK, 99-JJ that hold a club, for example). Hands that raise have us beat and there wont be many, if any, bluffs in this spot from non-maniacs.

When deciding if to call a turn raise, remember your implieds are super weak and adjust accordingly. Betting when a fourth club hits will turn your hand face up and let the villain fold sets, straights and small flushes fairly lightly. No raising hands hold a club to pay you off with OTR. Finally you also face some negative implieds, should the 3c pair the board.

River would then be check back, or fold to a donk. AS played, still folding to that donk. Disgustedly - and very thin as well, with the possibility to call against some villains based on river AF.


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008

I tend to agree with Jaissica.

Holding the Kc on the turn my plan is probably almost always here to just bet the turn ~hp to get calls by worse, and check back the river pretty much always, also folding if donked into OTR. But it allows us to control the pot ourselves (betsizing) and we get value from worse, and don't have to do much guessing on the river because we check back when given the option, and if he leads into us he tells us we're beat. :f_thumbsup:


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krasops
Joined: 02.02.2014

double barrel turn and xback river is std.....

if u wanna get tricky u can shove river vs some villains but not on nl2....


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