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AA - give up when turn gives Flush

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schelleXL
Joined: 05.05.2011

Hello,

pré okay,
flop bet in 3bet pot is okay but because flop is wet might be a little bigger ? He raises, could be with draws.
turn flush comes in and he shoves. Not really much I can do here I think.

If he does this with QQ or KK : good for him.

BB: $11.00 (VPIP: 12.31, PFR: 12.31, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 66)
UTG: $12.12 (VPIP: 17.69, PFR: 12.27, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 278)
UTG+1: $12.37 (VPIP: 19.49, PFR: 14.41, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 120)
MP: $10.00 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP+1: $10.15 (VPIP: 15.82, PFR: 12.14, 3Bet Preflop: 4.48, Hands: 1,236)
Hero (MP+2): $10.00
CO: $4.88 (VPIP: 12.40, PFR: 12.40, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 123)
BTN: $11.77 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: $12.31 (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♥ A♠

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.80, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 3♣ T♥ 9♣
MP+1 checks, Hero bets $1.10, MP+1 raises to $2.60, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.95, 2 players) 4♣
MP+1 bets $6.75 and is all-in, fold

Spoiler

MP+1 wins $6.64


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Well played.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Yes, perfectly fine.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

You played this fine.
Preflop standard 3bet size is 3x, here you 3bet 1bb lower, why?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

This is a school of thought that teaches that you can 3B a little bit smaller IP and a little bit larger OOP.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Yes.

The sizing is also appropriate for strategies 3-betting preflop abnormally much. This way the "mistake" in raising is made smaller and easier to compensate for postflop (where the opponent hopefully makes bigger mistakes).


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I usually 3bet bigger OOP but not smaller IP Maybe that's not good.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

No, it is ok. It is just an option you can use. I do not like to 3b smaller IP too.


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AXSPIRAL
Joined: 06.03.2011

so lets say what would you guys have done if the turn didnt complete the flush and is a dead card like 2d and villain keeps on shoving there?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

First, let you give a range for villain shoving here.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

You are 100bb deep. What hands do you think villain x/r OTF and shove turn in 3bet pot?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Sets...


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Meh, i dont think i can say it was "good" or "bad".
Yeah, in a vacuum there is little we can do here, but you have over 1k hands with him.
If his flop fold to cbet in 3bet pots is big then you can safely fold.
If he c/r more than 20% of the time you can easily call.

I put him on AKs KK QQ sets and monsterdraws when he pushes turn.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
Sets...

Obviously yes, but I didn't ask you I know you know the answer :)


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Overpairs- AA, KK...


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

Villain is tight and we have a big sample, who would fold the x/r on the flop with an overpair here? Too nitty? Chasing 2 outs.


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Pokerruudje
Joined: 12.12.2007

Well done! :f_drink:


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schelleXL
Joined: 05.05.2011

Hey,

regarding 3bet size :

vs 3BB raise

IP : 8BB
OOP : 10 BB

that's how I play it.

regarding hand :
we probably have 1 out vs a set A♦:
and might even be in trouble vs JJ-KK if they have a :club: ...


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

I think it is unlikely villain has the AJs+ range considering heros blockers.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

The fact that we have blockers does not automatically remove the possibility of villain having a particular hand. It just lessens the possibility... Villain can have AQs-AJs here.


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