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SH T9s BB vs UTG, Flop Straight

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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $24.49 (244.9 bb)
UTG: $11.86 (118.6 bb)
MP: $7.26 (72.6 bb)
CO: $10.32 (103.2 bb)
BTN: $5.86 (58.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T 9
UTG raises to $0.30, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) K Q J (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.60, UTG raises to $4, Hero raises to $24.19 and is all-in

Preflop: UTG plays 25/18 in 61 hands, so will assume he is a reg. No info on his positional stats. So will play default ranges vs him, which means this:

Flop: He cbets $0,50 into pot of $0,65, so the fold equity he needs is 0,50/(0,50+0,65)*100 = 43,48%. His flop cbet% in the sample size is 75%, so I will assume he is not out of the line with this and I will defend 100%-43,48% = 56,52% of my preflop cold calling range. Since I cold call the range of 8,9%, I have to defend the range of 8,9%*56,52/100 = 5,03% on the flop. Probably something like this:

(5,28%)

The question is do I have a check/raising range on that board or I defend everything by calling? What bothers me is that it's relatively easy to find value check/raising range and that will be QQ, JJ, ATs and T9s (not sure for KQs). It's range of 1,51%. The problem is which hands should I check/raise as a bluff, since it seems that all the other defending hands are good enough for check/calling. For example, why would I bluff check/raise with AK? Furthermore, ratio of bluff check/raising range and value check/raising range should theoretically be 2:1, which means that I should check/raise almost entire preflop defending range.

On the other hand, it's weird not to check/raise for value/protection since there are alot of turn cards that could be bad for us, so I don't believe that the solution is not to check/raise at all.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I'm not sure if you have a bluff x/r range in this spot with this pre flop range. If you must have one, how about TT? I would not x/r AK as a bluff.

Imo it doesn't matter if you have a bluff range or not. You hit a straight and your move is the best one here. Villain will call with draws, draw+pair, 2 pair, sets. So in my opinion you played this fine.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Board is awful and I do not think you should worry that much about bluff xr.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

So, could this be a spot where we have a value check/raising range and check/calling range without bluff check/raising range? I just found it interesting since the theory says that if some part of our defending range vs flop cbets we defend by raising or check/raising, we should have a value raising range and bluff raising range which should be twice as big as value raising range (100bb deep).

I know it's not important at microstakes, but could that be exploitable at higher limits? Maybe the answer is in the fact that our check/calling range is also quite strong.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I don't think we need a x/r bluff range here.
When we check, we can fold, call or raise. Villain never knows how we react and he shouldn't be able to exploit our check.
After a huge amount of hands villain might understand what kind of range we are playing when we call or when we raise.
When we raise he still has so strong range that it would be very hard for him to fold.

As you said it is not important at microstakes. And exploiting this would require a big hand sample and smart villain and even then how he would be able to exploit us? With exploitative folds maybe every time we x/r but then we can start check raising him even more. And would he fold his 2 pair or sets even if he knew we are strong?

This hand is good as played and there is no other option.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

First think what hands are going to fold to your raise/xr.


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