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QQ on 4bet pot

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ferdhy5
Joined: 21.04.2014

Pacific $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2900188
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Hero (CO): $5.98
BTN: $16.86 - VPIP: 53, PFR: 10, 3B: 13, AF: 5.0, Hands: 79
SB: $5.50
BB: $5.00
UTG: $5.17
MP: $5.10

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with Q :club: Q :spade:
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, BTN raises to $0.50, 2 folds, MP calls $0.45, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1, MP calls $1

Flop: ($4.57) 9 :spade: 4 :heart: A :diamond: (3 players)
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($4.57) 4 :spade: (3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.28, BTN raises to $15.36, MP folds, Hero folds

Hi guys. I have no reads other than the stats on BTN. When he raises and another player calls my intention is to go all in and avoid playing multiway postflop. Maybe my 4bet should have been bigger.
I assume no one might have an ace OTF so I bet the turn but it backfires. Would it have been better to x/c and reevaluate OTR? or maybe calling the push since the pot is so big and villain could be bluffing or have worse hands? I rarely play 4bet pots so I felt at a loss here. Thanks


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Difficult spot. This is a 4bet pot and it is quite likely one of villains have Ax hand. Imo BTN should bet his top pair pretty often when you check on the flop. I think your turn bet is ok. OTT when villain raises you have about 1/4 pot left so I think calling is not that bad. Villain might do this with draws sometimes.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I would make the 4b bigger. With this sizing you invite them all and we do not want mw pot.
Axx board is the board you will attack when you 4b...
If you decide to bet turn you can get smaller and fold vs a raise.


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Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007

I would have x/f turn, because:
- multiway pot. Ax is likely.
- better hands will call or raise the bet. Worse hands will fold.
- no Ax will ever fold on this board.
- if i had AK as BU i would have played the same way. No need to bet flop at this dry board.
- you cannot rep an A anymore, since as preflop agressor you would have at least bet small otf with an A


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Checking flop and check folding OTT would be quite weak and exploitable. If pre-flop aggressor checks 2 streets, villain should be stabbing with anything here. The best move in this hand is to bet the flop. When hero didn't do so I think he has to bet or at least x/c one street with this hand.


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sergii1984
Joined: 23.04.2011

bet turn/fold is ok but sizing must be smaller around 1/4-1/3 pot (max) - its 4bet multipot


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Betting flop is important.
As played, bet small turn and fold is right.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I am moving AI preflop. Making a pot-sweetener is senseless. Anything bigger is 40% of stacks.

As played, I'd just give up on the flop. Too crowed. The A works two ways, and vs 2, one of whom is liable to have any Ax, I'll not try to represent.

The turn bet can only be rewarded in two ways. Worse hands are folding or bluffing you out. They are not calling. Slowplayed better hands will raise. You could bet as a bluff stopper (betting hoping they fold worse hands), but that reason is not good enough alone for me.


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Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007

Ohh. Good to get some backwind. :f_confused:
Now i´m really unsure with this spot. ^^


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