Originally posted by YohanN7
Originally posted by xdimax
I had notes on this fish. This is my previous hand with him. For me easy call with KK after this hand.
I`m not really sure we need to speak about math if fish in the hand
...Then why the hell do you post and ask?
+1. You got good info and you exploit that.
Originally posted by xdimax
Originally posted by YohanN7
Originally posted by xdimax
I had notes on this fish. This is my previous hand with him. For me easy call with KK after this hand.
I`m not really sure we need to speak about math if fish in the hand
...Then why the hell do you post and ask?
Well the hand sample size on this player was not that big at the moment i posted it. I was not really sure after his move vs TTT. But i played a few more hands vs him, his play didn't really changed. So after all i shouldn`t really post this hand. Sorry for misleading.
No problem.
The EV of a move always has priority. It is in EV = 0 (or EV = DON'T KNOW) situations versus competent opponents (I supposed this was such a situation) that game theory comes into play - or it might still not. You may want to deviate from GTO if you think you are cleverer than your opponent and feel for a leveling war. Then you can call (it would cost or gain you nothing in EV). But then you have to remember what you did for quite some time because he will. 
Originally posted by xdimax
Originally posted by MisterSnS
wow... without reading all these comments (I think the hand isn't THAT hard to debate) I would also go for the fold. We simply don't know enough about the villain to draw any big conclusions. If a spot is "close" and we gotta risk our whole stack I rather wait for a better spot and stack the fish with a monsterThat said: It will be a better investment to donate the $112 to some charity organization or give it a homeless person than to call this shove.
KK is not a monster on this kind of board vs a fish? Or you allways wait for quads to stack the fish?
cheers
No 
But I would not go broke blindly either. If he shoves a whole stack I wanna have reads that support the arbitrary conclusion that Villain can have weaker hands he plays like that. Usually I give them credit in the first place, until they prove me wrong
Usually I give them credit in the first place, until they prove me wrong
This is most important.
