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mistralx
Joined: 13.08.2014

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 115.2 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 22)
SB: 136.8 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 157 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♦

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (18.4 BB, 2 players) 5♦ 3♥ 4♣
Hero bets 10.4 BB, UTG calls 10.4 BB

Turn: (39.2 BB, 2 players) K♦
Hero checks, UTG bets 25 BB, fold,

Preflop - standard
Flop - c-bet 4 value
Turn - and now the problem appears. With a gutshot and two overs he can easily calls the Flop with AK. K is really bad card for me and I don't see a point in c-beting here. I don't expect many floats with SD value hands like 99-JJ. What do you think? Check/call or fold?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Preflop it is not that standard to 3b this hand.
Flop is ok.
Turn helps your range, you can cbet again.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would call this pre vs UTG. Flop cbet ok.
Turn hits your range too and villain can be calling flop with many other hands than Kx. Also if you bet flop and check turn -> you are capped and definitely do not have that K -> villain stabs 100% -> you fold = you are exploitable.
Conclusion: bet turn too.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

Very bad spot but i think betting on the King would be better. He does not have many kings that float the flop besides AK for gutshot and 2 overs. This is why i believe betting the turn again for value vs 66-jj and Ax with gutshot type of hands would be better. Moreover, the King hits your range better than his

An Ace turn is most probably a check fold.

The way you played it, you are indeed capped and even if you call - you must be folding to a river bet which a competent player would throw in with his entire range. So i guess folding turn once checked is ok.


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Pnnkaznk
Joined: 13.11.2009

Originally posted by la55i
I would call this pre vs UTG. Flop cbet ok.
Turn hits your range too and villain can be calling flop with many other hands than Kx. Also if you bet flop and check turn -> you are capped and definitely do not have that K -> villain stabs 100% -> you fold = you are exploitable.
Conclusion: bet turn too.

Why not check/call turn than. If willian bets 100% of his range when we check K, why not get value from those hands, we get more value than beting, IF he bets 100% after our turn check.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

will you call a river bet too?


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Pnnkaznk
Joined: 13.11.2009

Without any info, River wuld be tough, at river he culd have pocket pairs, and Kx imo. He vuld check back pocket pairs for showdown value, and bet better imo. So probobly check/fold river.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Villain will very likely stab river too and you can't call that. And if villain is not skilled enough to know hero is capped and he should stab, he will check behind and we miss value + let him see a free card.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by Pnnkaznk
Without any info, River wuld be tough, at river he culd have pocket pairs, and Kx imo. He vuld check back pocket pairs for showdown value, and bet better imo. So probobly check/fold river.

I prefer having the initiative on turn then.


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hellraiser22
Joined: 28.09.2007

A very legit fold there, check raising the flop would be better cause of AK. Preflop calling is also ok, but if you desided to 3b vs unknown, chose a bigger sizing to make it difficult for him.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

This is a call pre. As played, fold is fine IMO


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