iso shove call

Seems okay, especially given a fact of what tourney this is; In this spot I'd tend to call w 55+ (and 620 extra allow us to call even 22+ slightly "+"), unless we have proper info of tightness of this player; And 3-orbits are not enough;

Regards,
Lothar

def. a call. Stats are not enough but its likely CO is going way wider, probably something like: 44+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,A7o+,KJo+ which means 77 is a safe allin for you.

Originally posted by gusma
def. a call. Stats are not enough but its likely CO is going way wider

I disagree there, at these micro levels a tight player is unlikely to be shoving really wide here

I presume by the BU stats you mean the CO who reshoved? A bit weird as there is no BU in the list, looks like HEM messed up, but anyway.....

If he is playing 12/12 I think its fair to assume hes reshoving a lot tighter than 44+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,A7o+,KJo+ which is 18%, even 12% (77+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KJo+) against that range you only have 44%
But I think its more likely he's reshoving less than that, say 6% (88+,ATs+,KQs,AQo+) and then you only have 36.6%
or even 4% (99+,AQs+,AKo) then you have 31.5%

In my experience at these levels I would fold 77, and call 99+, AQ+ maybe even just 99+, AK

Something I forgot to consider is the absence of ante, but even in this situation 77 must be a shove. Doing some work on HRC we have UTG+1 shoving 29% (wich I think is def off for this limits as he would be shoving way more), CO going over with 13%, 55+, A7s+, A9o+, KTs+, KQo, QJs and Hero should def. ship 77.
Now if we consider ante, the ranges are exaclty what I said and you must even ship 44+.

I wouldn’t be surprise to me if a random 1 euro tournament player wouldn’t iso shove that wide what HRC will suggest here. So I expect this will be not a mistake to fold 77 in a spot like this without antes in play.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Theres no way in a micro stake tourny that people shove correctly, take the shoving range from one of those programs then halve it and you will be a lot closer to what people actually shove in these micro tournys

Originally posted by slippyjim
Theres no way in a micro stake tourny that people shove correctly, take the shoving range from one of those programs then halve it and you will be a lot closer to what people actually shove in these micro tournys

Agree in micros players don't shove close to NASH but not necessarilly their range is tighter. And specially short stacked, in my experience, I think they go way wider

Originally posted by gusma
Agree in micros players don't shove close to NASH but not necessarilly their range is tighter. And specially short stacked, in my experience, I think they go way wider

Maybe for some players, but I rarely see people reshove (not open shove) wide unless they have a massive stack or a tiny tiny stack, hes pretty short here but not the shortest stack and with his VPIP stats I expect him to have a realy hand here that 77 is flipping with at best. I dont think hes reshoving A2-A7 or K2-K7 so the only hands we have crushed are 22-66 and I'm not totally sure hes reshoving all of those hands