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Ok this line till river?

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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $2.03 (101.5 bb)
BB: $2.33 (116.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $2.06 (103 bb)
CO: $1.66 (83 bb)
BTN: $2.39 (119.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K♥: J♦:
Hero raises to $0.06, CO calls $0.06, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.15) Q♥: 4♦: K♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.07, Hero calls $0.07

Turn: ($0.29) J♣: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

River: ($0.57) 7♠: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

And the thought process...?


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Sorry, I copied with HM2 to see if it worked but it doesn't show stats.

CO: $1.66 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 24

So CO is unknown. Flop comes with a K and checked because I believe my hand isn't good for 3 solid streets of value.
J comes OTT and when I raise, I isolate myself vs AT and sets.
River comes, villain could be stabbing with AK or AQ but also better hands. Bet was not too big and didn't have to win often here so I decided to call it down.


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pokerplayernumber1
Joined: 05.06.2010

cbet this OOP, you will know where you stand


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Thanks, but the problem is, then we bet for information, which is not a right reason for betting.


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wimNP
Joined: 11.03.2011

Hero has seen Villain play five hands. In those five hands he bet nor raised. In this hand he barrels on every street. Even on the river, which is a blank. So IMO Hero folds on the river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Villain makes half pot bets so we can call and make a note.


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NgroMartin
Joined: 31.08.2010

I think you should Cbet flop, you have to think you have the best of that flop the most of the time, so you bet for value (the information is extra). if you don't want to bet 3 streets with that hand you could check/call the river or may be the turn (depending on the cards), OOP is harder to control the pot..

as played I like the call on the turn.
the river is difficult because he 3-barrels so we have to think he have something.. I'm pretty sure AK, QQ+ would raise preflop. AQ, AJ probably too but that depends on the villain. so we beat bluffs, QJ, A4s, may be a J4s/J7s (but it will be weird), sometimes AJ or AQ and we lost to KQ, 44, AT. you need to win 25% of the time, so its a call

I would like to know what hand he had


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

You can't bet 3 streets but you can't call 3 streets either without improving. I think you should just cbet flop for value, you will get called by many worse hands. That also makes it easier for us to play other streets. If villain checks behind OTF, we just lose value and give free cards to him. If villain bets vs your missed cbet, what you gonna do OTT or OTR when he keeps on betting?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Unusual line, but don't even think about folding river the way the hand went. What do you require? Straight flush? Your hand is face up (weak) so the villain can easily think about bluffing you off. Don't let him do it this cheaply (1/2 pot OTR).

Originally posted by Hesticus
Thanks, but the problem is, then we bet for information, which is not a right reason for betting.

It is as good a reason as any other reason, just not on its own. You can definitely use it as a tie breaker in close situations like here.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Alright, thanks guys! :) He showed KQo (for those interested).


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