JTo - T cbet?

This is also good to know what kind of players we are dealing with, but against 2 unknowns I wouldn’t Cbet with nothing on the flop.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I meant c-betting the Turn, I think cbetting the F and representing the A as OR is fine here.

It is just, when I bet the T I also kind a have to bet the R and I do not know if the risk/reward ratio is good enough. 2bet to win 4/5 bets with 4 true outs and 6 possible outs.

c-bet on flop is fine, but I would c the turn, you only have a SD and he can have a A / K.

So why pay to see the river.....

Well villain can fold the hand if I bet. On the other hand I can get raised and I will have to fold 7:1 odds...

for me checking turn is ok, teh "2" on the river is a bad card,
I would fold now

Checking turn most definitely has +EV because about 10% of the time you make the nuts. (Say that +EV is about 0.55 BB because there is 4 BB in the pot and you'll get in a river raise sometimes.) Is betting turn more +EV? If so, then they'd have to both fold some 25-30% of the time (exactly 20% of the time for break even). This I find unrealistic.

Another point is that c-betting excessively is an error - even on flops when HU. Mathematically, you should bluff much less versus two than versus one, especially when both hang around until turn.