QQ overpair 4-way pot

Look, do you make difference between 3b and squeeze?
BB squeezes vs 3 and can do it with wide range.
Second, our call and play in mw pot postflop is not ok. With what hands are you going to defend vs squeeze? With AA-KK only? Our hand is perfect to 4b. We can collect the dead money if they fold and we can put pressure postflop of someone calls.

This is a 4bet for me.
I'm not sure about the flop line. Yes villain bets very small but the flop is dry and our hand doesn't need that much protection, or am I wrong? By raising I think you isolate yourself against better pocket pairs.

Originally posted by nitrol
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BB squeezes vs 3 and can do it with wide range.
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You do it with a wide range, probably even more if there were 5? (Sry, couldn't resist:D)

Agree with 4-bet. Don't count on button and SB folding if you call. They'll have odds and position (good relative position in the case of SB).

As played: Don't count on BB firing air when 4-handed.

No, I am not a squeeze maniac.
It is just the right situation.

I like a 4bet as well as squeeze indeed is wide. Postflop I don't understand what you try to accomplish. You want villain to fold? Call with weaker hands? Because obviously against a wide range, we cannot expect villain will call for sure.

Originally posted by Hesticus
I like a 4bet as well as squeeze indeed is wide. Postflop I don't understand what you try to accomplish. You want villain to fold? Call with weaker hands? Because obviously against a wide range, we cannot expect villain will call for sure.

I didn't want to just call and play QQ overpair multi-way, so I was going to raise. Since my stack would be small compared to the pot after the raise, I decided to shove. To avoid a difficult decision on the turn in case a higher card hit.

How would you guys play the flop as played preflop?

I agree that I should have 4-bet pre-flop.

The problem is that with the raise, BB will call with a range that is about equal to your range. Check the equity below of which I think villain would call with.

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 2h8s8c
Equity Win Tie
MP2 52.86% 51.43% 1.43% { QdQs }
MP3 47.14% 45.71% 1.43% { 88+, 22 }

In a mw pot we can narrow villain's range pretty much to this. Perhaps 88 could be argued or a possible AKs. However, it may be clear that the polarized range of villain preflop has changed drastically.

Therefore, I would just call OTF and play against a wider range in which you are ahead equity-wise.

How would you guys play the flop as played preflop?

I prefer to just call.

Thanks for the answers, guys.

Due to the fact that we will most likelly be in a multi-way pot OOP postflop if we call, I like 4betting more.