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What do you think? I put the guy on a hand and folded when his draw came in. Dude snap-shoved the river. You think this was a good fold?

Party Poker $2.20 USD Buy-in No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 10 players
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UTG+2: t1600 40 BBs
MP1: t1840 46 BBs
MP2: t1480 37 BBs
MP3: t2200 55 BBs
Hero (CO): t2190 54.75 BBs
BTN: t2720 68 BBs
SB: t1960 49 BBs
BB: t2000 50 BBs
UTG: t2010 50.25 BBs
UTG+1: t2000 50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is CO with 7 :club: 7 :diamond:
UTG raises to t80, 2 folds, MP1 calls t80, MP2 calls t80, 1 fold, Hero calls t80, BTN calls t80, 2 folds

Flop: (t400) 6 :club: 9 :spade: 4 :diamond: (5 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t220, BTN calls t220, UTG calls t220, MP1 folds, MP2 folds

Turn: (t1060) 3 :diamond: (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t450, BTN folds, UTG calls t450

River: (t1960) T :diamond: (2 players)
UTG bets t1260 all in


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

In a 5way pot I think you're bet OTF is ambitious, so I would check the flop
OTT once you get called twice I would check unimproved
OTR it looks weird but I cant see that you're winning so you have to fold

Early on with anything less than top pair be cautious, especially in multiway pots


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

Im folding the river. He shouldn't be doing this with any hand that we beat


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

You are calling pre-flop for set value and you are playing 5 ways.
So I would try to check it down and give up on a reasonable bet.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Thanks for the replies guys but can't say that I agree. I think your lines are very passive. Sure, I am calling to set mine but when that flop comes down, I have a decent pair and the original aggressor checks to me - I think I'm good most times. I am betting for protection on both streets. Putting them on overcards or straight draws, I think that it's best to keep betting. The turn certainly doesn't scare me but it does put more potential draws out there, hence I bet again to make them pay to draw. Their shove makes no sense unless the river made them a straight or a flush - especially considering that I bet both streets. Would they be doing that with a 9? Pocket 8s maybe? No way they hit a set on the flop and played it passively while the board got more dangerous. What solid hand could the villain of had that they wouldn't continue their aggression on the flop? Even if they hit top pair, would they check it into 4 other people? Seems as passive as me checking the flop when it got to me.


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TomClassy
Joined: 06.05.2015

OTF, I agree with the above comments that you midpair is no good against 4 opponents that is why you need to check it down and not be ashamed of passiveness of your "action". There are weaker made hands and draws in your opponent's preflop ranges especially if they are passive and fishy but then you will never know what you are getting called by. Any kind of tight opponents would just fold preflop weak or marginal hands and never go further with a 2nd or 3rd pair in a multiway pot.
If you believe that passive opponents will not be playing their sets, 2 pairs or a top pair passive on a wet board which is not the case here since you block most of 78 combos, they actually often will at least up untill the turn. If a tight opponent hold a set then he would also most likely have called down and let you play aggro your non-draw hand and get value.
As I said because of your blockers (note that 78s is impossible cos you hold 7d) and petty likelihood of a runner-runner diamond draw which would continue OTF (89d,T9d,J9d,Q9d,K9d,A9d,76d,65d where you beat only 2/8 of overall combos) you actually have nothing to protect against and should have made a conclusion that you were just trying to bluff out the hand better than yours and I doubt that you ever succed when such a blank card as 3d comes OTT.
OTR you are lucky that he shoves you and you don't neeed to bluff anymore.


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

Originally posted by sickbadger7
Sure, I am calling to set mine

You said it yourself. You called to setmine. I have to agree with the other guys, trying to bet twice into a 5 way pot with a small pair doesn't makes alot of sense to me. If you are set mining your plan should be to only continue on sets, and maybe on boards like this if there only are two people in the pot.


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slippyjim
Joined: 07.10.2011

in a 5 way pot, do you really think you are ahead when you dont even have top pair?

in a 5 way pot your hand against
4 random hands - has 25% - so you lose 75% of the time........
4 top 40% hands - has 20%
4 top 30% hands - has 18.5%
etc etc


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