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good/bad 3bet?

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zagarese
Joined: 29.04.2009

** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ** (Pacific)
$2.00 USD PL Omaha - Thursday, August 11, 03:41:15 ET 2016
Table Araure (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $3.22 USD ) - VPIP: 67, PFR: 26, 3B: 11, AF: 2.2, Hands: 70
Seat 2: Player2 ( $3.77 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 1.3, Hands: 40
Seat 4: Player4 ( $1.08 USD ) - VPIP: 64, PFR: 21, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 14
Seat 6: Player6 ( $0.24 USD ) - VPIP: 67, PFR: 33, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
Seat 7: Hero ( $1.24 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 10, 3B: 4, AF: 6.1, Hands: 59449
Seat 9: Player9 ( $0.31 USD ) - VPIP: 91, PFR: 27, 3B: 20, AF: 0.0, Hands: 11
Player2 posts small blind [$0.01 USD].
Player4 posts big blind [$0.02 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kc 2c Ad 9d ]
Player6 raises [$0.07 USD]
Hero raises [$0.24 USD]

Good or bad 3-bet?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It will be close against a 24c stack, but I don’t think it’s bad with a double suited hand like this.
Also it’s most likely better to play with at least a 100bb stack.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I would definitely call. We don't want to get preflop all-in with this hand. If UTG opens 30% there, you are 50/50 flipping with him. Against RFI 20% you are 48% underdog. That doesn't give you profit in the long run. Call, and create multiway pot where the value of your 2 flush draws go up and you can make some profit.


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zagarese
Joined: 29.04.2009

Originally posted by SDK1987
It will be close against a 24c stack, but I don’t think it’s bad with a double suited hand like this.
Also it’s most likely better to play with at least a 100bb stack.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Thank you.

I understand - or think I do - the value of playing with a full stack where possible but do choose to play only a single buy in on this site (Pacific) for BRM reasons.

But I also find it interesting to get into spots (at very micro stakes) where I have to make decisions because of stack sizes. I really wasn't sure if 3betting a 12 BB stack was correct.


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zagarese
Joined: 29.04.2009

Originally posted by Kyyberi
I would definitely call. We don't want to get preflop all-in with this hand. If UTG opens 30% there, you are 50/50 flipping with him. Against RFI 20% you are 48% underdog. That doesn't give you profit in the long run. Call, and create multiway pot where the value of your 2 flush draws go up and you can make some profit.

If I flat and get raised - do you call or fold?

One reason I chose to 3-bet was the fact of having and ace and a king and therefore feeling like I was less likely to be 4-bet.

Thank you.


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

I like the 3bet and definately +ev flip against random fish. I can see idea behind building mw pot, but then we are relying our A high FD mostly, no straight draws and 2pairs will be weak if we're getting a lot of action postlop mw this hand.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

If everyone folds besides shorty, due the rake it's EV0 play. So that is as good as folding. Question is, how likely it is that someone cold calls our 3bet and is that +EV or -EV for us? Or can we change that hand to +EV by calling and pulling people to pot?

To me that looks a lot like pulling hand and not a pushing hand.


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