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I hadn't courage to call even thinking I was ahead.

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kappozo
Joined: 16.04.2014

Hi guys, should I call this hand ? I've thought I was ahead but my fear of loose don't let me call this hand.
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BTN: $4.52
SB: $6.27
Hero (BB): $5.20
UTG: $5.81
MP: $4.52
CO: $10.52

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with A :heart: K :club:
2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.45, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.92) 3 :club: 2 :diamond: 5 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.92) 2 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($0.92) A :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.44, CO raises to $5.22, Hero folds


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

I guess it you played it correctly. Yes, you can a lot of his aces combos, but do you think your opponent will bluff here for the whole stack with overshove 10X. To me it is correct play for this limit. I guess he would just call with his 66-JJ river, but overshove at micro often means your opponent pretty strong.


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Vivagonetta
Joined: 18.07.2008

I would've bet at least the flop to get some information about his hand at least or to take it right there. Now he quite possibly has that fullhouse/set on the river but you are left guesing and ending up spending 9 big blinds anyway.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

As played river fold is ok.
I would bet already on the flop or on the turn.


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

Very low board which hit the villains calling range with small pairs. Ok to fold to such a big bet on river.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We can bet turn when flop got xx.
As played, fold river. You are vs a boat here.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

..., or a straight. Or an occasional bluff. If he bluffed you out from a tiny pot with a 10x raise, then you should be very nice to this guy. You very much want to play with him.

A question to OP: Why do you think you are ahead? Your answer is quite important (for you), since it will have huge impact on future hands.


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Saren113
Joined: 06.03.2009

I kinda like c on this type of a board, I would cb if I had a diamond in my hand though for extra eq. But that's my overall cb plan I am mostly betting when I have some type of backdoor.


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kappozo
Joined: 16.04.2014

Originally posted by YohanN7
..., or a straight. Or an occasional bluff. If he bluffed you out from a tiny pot with a 10x raise, then you should be very nice to this guy. You very much want to play with him.

A question to OP: Why do you think you are ahead? Your answer is quite important (for you), since it will have huge impact on future hands.

I thought that he wouldn't pay my 3-bet with hands like 33-55 and if he did it do you think he would play flop and turn in that way?
Of course overshove at micro often means your opponent pretty strong and I hadn't info of him and thinking better I wasn't ahead because I do not see he doing this overshove river with hands like 66-QQ or KK that he just called pre flop so probably he called with 33-55.


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scopinad
Joined: 13.06.2015

This is 6max and CO must call a 3bet from the BB with all pairs, almost all suited connectors and almost all suited one gappers.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by kappozo

Originally posted by YohanN7
..., or a straight. Or an occasional bluff. If he bluffed you out from a tiny pot with a 10x raise, then you should be very nice to this guy. You very much want to play with him.

A question to OP: Why do you think you are ahead? Your answer is quite important (for you), since it will have huge impact on future hands.

I thought that he wouldn't pay my 3-bet with hands like 33-55 and if he did it do you think he would play flop and turn in that way?
Of course overshove at micro often means your opponent pretty strong and I hadn't info of him and thinking better I wasn't ahead because I do not see he doing this overshove river with hands like 66-QQ or KK that he just called pre flop so probably he called with 33-55.

To be honest, now it sounds you are unsure you are ahead.

My point is that a big river bet overshadows reads you might have on the flop. Such reads go out of the window when facing a 10x overbet, regardless of whether he "should" play this and that holding the way the play went. The only question is if he bluffs enough (does not have at least a straight) to motivate a call with nut two pair (which isn't a real two pair since the board is paired.).

It is bad poker to, as a standard, view small suck bets being for value and huge overbets as being bluffs. Winning poker is betting as big as possible with good hands and betting not much more than required to get the job done with bluffs. Turning this around is deceptive, and should be done occasionally. But normal behavior should be the dominant behavior.

You could call, but then you need a good solid read having watched showdowns with this guy several times before. Otherwise you'd just be guessing that the guy is horrible.


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