Still playing weak? JJ

Usually I also flat call JJ vs MP, but when you are so deep.. I would rather 3-bet this hand.
As played - call, call, fold.

You played this hand correctly. Without any reads I wouldn't call his shove otr even if there was no Q. This smells like trips/full house. The board is dry so draws are less likely. And his bets are not that small. He starts with 1/2 OTF which is quite standard and OTT he increases his bet size to 3/4.

Think he must be trapping, haven't seen him playing but joined a few tables after a break and he was(buy in $2) $5,$7,$3.5 on the 3 tables, so some people obviously met his all in....

The board is super dry. It could be a higher over pair/two pairs, the bet size tells it could be a full house on the river.
You called two bets on the cheaper streets, the power of position, fold the river and walk away unscathed.

Guys, what do you think about raising flop, betting most turns and checking rivers?

1.The hand is played correctly. The AI overbet on river on paired board with Overcard on it is a pure fold.

Originally posted by wealthybrainer
Guys, what do you think about raising flop, betting most turns and checking rivers?

What hands will call you there, on this low dry board?

I wouldn't raise overpairs. In general I raise nuts and some draws as a semibluff, overpairs and top pairs fall in between them and are calls for me. You usually want to raise with hands that you could call a shove with = nuts and draws with good equity.
On this super dry flop I would not raise even sets I think.

I don t raise turn: with draw you can reverse, with nuts you don't need protection, if you raise jj turn you are capped

Vs overbert i don't bluff catching vs tag/nitty

Nh

pisiattu, I was thinking about flop raise

If you raise jj flop you have a capped range, when you call what do you call on flop?
In this flop you raise few bluff and in this range equity of original raiser is better then your

in theory it sounds bad (by your opinion), however, I don't see how you can exploit it easily.

By raising this super dry flop you will isolate yourself against sets only. If this was more connected flop villain could put you on more draws etc and he will call more.
Also in general I don't think this kind of hands make good raises. It should be nuts or some draws as a bluff. Now your hand is not the nuts and it has only 2 outs to improve, meaning that you can't call if villain shoves.

Including this kind of hands into your flop raise range makes you range "bluff heavy", I would say. At least you can't call a shove with this hand. So if you only have 1/3 or 1/4 nuts in your raising range villain could start shoving profitably every time you raise OTF.

"By raising this super dry flop you will isolate yourself against sets only" I believe this isn't true because there are only 9 combos of sets and if he folds KQ thats great for me, he would call with Tx. Do you think players would 3bet a lot and with what?

I think this hand is well played. You can call his flop and turn bet since you have overpair and villain bets regular sizes.

On the river his shove is very strong. I would fold. Even if this might be a bluff, he would have to bluff like that with air almost 50% of the time to make a call profitable.

Already turn is close to a fold. The bet is big and anything worse than JJ is on average bluffing. We hold the bottom of the bluff catching range and should consider folding. This player, by the way, is easily going to lose to you soon enough if he is in the habit of 3-barrel bluffing with exponential growth of bet size. But JJ is far from enough to make a stand since you don't know yet what he is doing.

Originally posted by wealthybrainer
"By raising this super dry flop you will isolate yourself against sets only" I believe this isn't true because there are only 9 combos of sets and if he folds KQ thats great for me, he would call with Tx. Do you think players would 3bet a lot and with what?

Way too optimistic to think that villain would call our raise OTF with KQ or Tx. I hope you are not calling 2 overs against a raise on super dry board.

well yeah looks like it was a bad idea raising JJ

it is an obvious fold on OTR. Just bcs of the huge overbet donk river. There were no FD on the flop, so there is no missed hands. Most of the time it is just nuts only.