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corsc
Joined: 03.11.2009

I have a hard time explaining this hand.
I didn't think he had an ace of the flop and after the x/r I couldn't see him having the flush.

Could someone please explain how you "see" this hand and help me see it properly?

Thanks.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 114.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
CO: 320.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 30.30, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
Hero (BTN): 104.2 BB
SB: 101.8 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 4.71, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 85)
BB: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: 191.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 18.42, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 77)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ 6♦

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) A♠ 3♣ 2♠
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (20.4 BB, 2 players) 6♠
BB bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

River: (42.4 BB, 2 players) 2♦
BB bets 27 BB, Hero calls 27 BB

Spoiler

BB shows K♠ J♠ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 38%, Turn 91%)
Hero mucks A♦ 6♦ (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes)
(Pre 56%, Flop 62%, Turn 9%)
BB wins 92.4 BB


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x3ndeDx
Joined: 22.08.2012

check back on the flop w/ this hand. You have a good showdown value hand, but dont get called by too much worse hands. Also, doing that you give him a lot of chance to hit worst hands than yours, so that you can charge on him by the turn and sometimes maybe the river.

the way you played, just fold on the flop. check/raises on this boards are sooo strong, pretty much always a set.

after call on the flop, I call on the turn to see if I can hit full house and then go allin on the river.

you shouldnt call this river pretty much never with this hand in this spot.

PS: Its ok to play a flush draw agressively on a x/r line, I wouldnt do it on this board, even more with Khigh, but its ok.


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Raise smaller from BTN.
Bet bigger OTF or check back. When you bet small you begin a leveling war with your oponent - he thinks you are weak, you think he thinks so aswell, thus raising hes probably raising wider than only value, but still you are in a bloated pot with a hand that doesnt want to be in such a pot. If you bet big and get raise you have an easy fold. If you check back you underrep your hand and can call 1 or 2 bets depending on the runout.


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

Did he really raise you with a fd, make a note and target him, I can see why you decided to see his cards


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I do't like the idea of checking back here. We have to bet. There are a lot of weaker hands, like pocket pairs, draws, other broadways that might call your cbet. Also you want to protect your hand. BB can call with a wide range and he has a lot of stuff that can hit hard, that 6 is a terrible card for example since flushes came there and so did 45.
When villain raises you OTF he most likely has a set or a flush draw. I wouldn't call river with only 2 pair hand.


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

I´m for cbetting as well, but make it bigger 45% of the pot is not enough. Make it 75%. As played I would fold OTR.


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corsc
Joined: 03.11.2009

Thanks for all your thoughts.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by corsc
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I didn't think he had an ace of the flop and after the x/r I couldn't see him having the flush.

Could someone please explain how you "see" this hand and help me see it properly?
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If someone check-raises and keeps firing, the first basic first thought is that he likes his hand. Why does he like his hand? Possibly it is a made hand, and possibly he was on a draw. If he was on a draw, he hit that turn card. So, by the turn, I'd put him on a range of made hands that mostly beat us.

Going further in reads is hard, because not all villain's are rational. I'd say a set should bet more than 50% pot on turn because of the flush draw. Likewise, a weak two pair (A2s) would like to bet bigger. So, yes, his actual holding makes much sense. But no-one can figure that out exactly. The river call is very marginal, and I wouldn't criticize a fold.


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