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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Hey! I passed up on the coaching, not on the friend request! :sifflote:

At first a normal range would be QTs, J9s, 97s, sets and 99 and JJ for a thin advanced bluff... idk maybe too advanced :badteeth: I believe T8s and 68s are too thin to be overpushed like that. And the turn sizing is kinda big for a semi bluff like J9 so maybe that could be exluded too.

But you kind of gave it away in the coaching that BU and CO VPIP are important. That means you would open hands in MP that you wouldnt normally - like Q8s, QTo. I think 97o would be too crazy. And 97s is a normal open in MP...
I dont believe you would give such a hint with QTs or a set or a straight. So Im thinking:
Q8s, QTo and from the flop and turn sizing I can exclude Q8s.
So.. Q♥:T♠:
And now you show up with Kings again and I feel rekt :nh:


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

TT. straight on river is not very likely given the action. but possible if fish calls with backdoors.

QQ hero would 4bet preflop. So J9s if hero opens it or TT, but lets guess TT. So bet bet bet, on river to get max value - shove.


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Tobman78
Joined: 27.03.2006

For me 66 or 97s.
As opponent is capable of trapping it's less likely to be a bluff and/or AA-KK.
On flop opp. any 6, any pair 77-99, any T, 22, 66, AA-TT.
On turn opp. any T, AA-TT, 66, 22
Could he call all the way down with TP?
On the other side as our opp. has a polarized range he could have a wide range of preflop hands.
The Q on the river may improve opp. hand to 2 pair, but just 1 hand QT.
So hero should be ahead of most hands...
So 88 also makes sense.
Ahead of 66, 22, AA, KK.
The check on the river?
Overcard as bluffcard? Is opp. capable of checking river in this sit. with a set? We could have no flush/straight draw...
Normally I would expect him to bet?? (Read necessary?)
When opp. would bet 22, 66 and check/call with good Ts and JJ+ (normal bet?) we can't expect that he holds a calling hand?

As we expect to have the 50/x as a caller the 97s hand becomes less likely. Or not? Do we still have it in our range?
I think 66, 88 and 97s is possible.
AA. KK might also possible?
How light calls the opp. our bets?
Turn bet is big. Should eliminate any bluffs and hands that don't beat any T, inc. AT and TT (opp. can't have a calling hand).
Riveroverbet should eliminate JJ.
Perhaps also AA and KK, cause the Q is an overcard and I think it's a bit less likely that opp. calls with less than 2pair. (and AA,KK)
So 88, 97s and perhaps 66.
(Random thoughts...)
Because of the combos and the 50/x player I take "88".


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

For the final week Hero posted a hand which is suposed to be very hard to gusess, so TT and QQ would be too obvious and it's clear that Hero has the nuts OTR. So, Hero openned 97s (I would bet on 9♥:7♥: if would have to) from the MP and called a 3bet with such good pot odds. After hitting a gutshot and a backdoor flushdraw OTF, he decided to cbet small to make his semi-bluff cheaper. He would sometimes make villain fold better hands like A, K, Q or J high and there are alot of good cards for barreling the turn. Hero hit his straight OTT, so he decided to value bet big because villain will pay him off with alot worse hands (looks a bit fishy) and there is also a possibility that he has TT+ which is trying to trap and won't go anywhere. River Q is a good card, except villain has J9, which is really not that likelly, so Hero has the best hand almost ever. For the reasons Hero bets the turn big, he decided to shove the River to maximise value vs overpairs, sets and possible two pairs (QT for example). When villain calls and showed TT, Hero started to run arround the house and yell "Who's your Daddy!".


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J9s. flop cee bet.
check call.
turn open ender. cee bet he calls he has a draw, over pair, 2 overs, any 10, sets.
river nuts. maximise value all in on the draw heavy board if he has any overpair, sets, Qs can get value from these hands.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Hey guys, last day for your guesses!
Tomorrow we will announce the winning hand, winner of the private coaching, and the raffle result in case of a tie!


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chriskwns
Joined: 07.10.2012

TT


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

97s i guess 9♦:7♦:

Preflop: Our opponents on early positions are tight, so we can have wider opening range. We can quite easily call possible 3bet from villain on BB with position on him as his 3bets are polarized and board will hit better us most of the time.
Flop: we c-bet half pot with backdoorflush draw and GS
Turn: we are getting the nuts and we go for maximum value and betting big because if villain has something he will definitely pay us off, if he doesn't he won't call a smaller bet.
River: villain called big bet on the turn, it's profitable to shove on the river


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nikobak666
Joined: 16.04.2013

I believe that the hand Hero holds is 66.
With the stats of CO and BU, I guess Hero opens wider... any pair most likely. :) Maybe J9s, but I'm not sure that the turn bet is good with only a gut shot, thus a strong holding for Hero on the flop is most probable.
Best regards, thanks for the coaching series! :)


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009
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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Some great guesses here, Alleen89 was spot on, so was Mjez1 but
mjez1 guessed precisely the exact hand down to a suit so he is the winner of the private coaching!
Make sure you add me in friend tool, I will be sending you my Skype shortly and we will have some fun improving your poker game!

Since Alleen89 guessed correctly (79 of hearts, diamonds, clubs are the most likely hands to be played this way), add me as well, and in case Mjez1 or badscene21 don't claim theor coaching, you will be first in line to get it yourself!


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Originally posted by LemOn36
Some great guesses here, Alleen89 was spot on, so was Mjez1 but
mjez1 guessed precisely the exact hand down to a suit so he is the winner of the private coaching!
Make sure you add me in friend tool, I will be sending you my Skype shortly and we will have some fun improving your poker game!

Since Alleen89 guessed correctly (79 of hearts, diamonds, clubs are the most likely hands to be played this way), add me as well, and in case Mjez1 or badscene21 don't claim theor coaching, you will be first in line to get it yourself!

Oh man, that's so tipical. I play a hand complettely fine with my fullhouse, but then opponent shows rivered straightflush... :badteeth:

I added you! Thanks! :f_thumbsup:


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Nice hand, but isnt 79s in your normal MP opening range? You said you are abit looser in this hand


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Originally posted by LemOn36
Some great guesses here, Alleen89 was spot on, so was Mjez1 but
mjez1 guessed precisely the exact hand down to a suit so he is the winner of the private coaching!
Make sure you add me in friend tool, I will be sending you my Skype shortly and we will have some fun improving your poker game!

Since Alleen89 guessed correctly (79 of hearts, diamonds, clubs are the most likely hands to be played this way), add me as well, and in case Mjez1 or badscene21 don't claim theor coaching, you will be first in line to get it yourself!

I added you. Thank you very much. :f_grin:


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Villain - A2
Hero - KK


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Lazza61
Joined: 23.03.2011

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