33, set in unraised pot

I would iso-raise pre.
If you raise it is very much possible everyone folds including the limper and you take down the pot. If you limp, someone else might raise big and it makes your odds more bad or then you will end up playing multiway in a limped pot where anyone can have anything and your set might be dominated more often or then you just don't get any value.

I'm pretty sure your villain will fold it preflop, especially at this limit. Anyway, I think it is correct play, villain called raise in MWP and raise turn when flush came in. Turn is easy call and river is fold. WP.

There aren't active players behind so I like it preflop.
Postflop is ok too.

You misread. We are in HJ facing an UTG limp in the equivalent of 6-handed.

Iso-raising in this spot is pretty loose full-handed, because it often plays differently from short-handed. There's no guarantee the limper is weak (or the players behind). I'd say it is much more likely for the limper to call a raise, because they expect (and often want) a raise behind them when they limp. This is actually what you want to see yourself, a raise by BB to 6-8 bb and 4 to see the flop would be the ideal. Now flopping a set has huge value. Preflop stealing has little place in games of this sort. It is fine to see a flop.

Mispost:f_eek:

As played I think you can either fold his raise OTT either call OTR as well IMO (not sure which one is better though?).

Since the river card doesn't change anything you shouldn't fold, bearing in mind you invested a lot of money

Never a good reason to call. I don't see two pair or some variant of a draw play this way every day, not even every week.

On turn, I think villain's range is sets and flushes + little else. Since we don't rep a flush draw on the flop, I think slowplayed sets are quite possible. We get roughly 3.5:1 when he raises and are possibly drawing dead to 3♠:. Could be a fold.

Originally posted by Dadramel
Since the river card doesn't change anything you shouldn't fold, bearing in mind you invested a lot of money

River card doesn't change anything, but I called turn as a draw to full house (odds are ok) and I fold river because I put him mostly on flushes.

Originally posted by YohanN7
On turn, I think villain's range is sets and flushes + little else. Since we don't rep a flush draw on the flop, I think slowplayed sets are quite possible. We get roughly 3.5:1 when he raises and are possibly drawing dead to 3♠:. Could be a fold.

Yes, I agree - higher sets could spoil the whole idea of drawing OTT

I don't think there is a chance for higher sets. 88 and TT raise pre. He would probably 3bet them on the flop.
You should raise the flop bigger. I think around 70% pot.
When you bet the turn, I think it is really difficult to get called by worse. When V calls the raise otf he probably has a lot of draws. All the fds got there ott.
As played you get good odds to call the min raise ott.
River fold seems good. I never expect to see anything but a flush.

Originally posted by plopfessional
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88 and TT raise pre.
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Possible. Not dead certain. I missed that point. (Limped pots are kind of unusual for me to see.)

BIG BLIND SPECIAL ....takes the free flop with 88 or a pair of squidgelums for the baby flush:club::club:

Originally posted by plopfessional
I don't think there is a chance for higher sets. 88 and TT raise pre. He would probably 3bet them on the flop.

River fold seems good. I never expect to see anything but a flush.

Possibly a mighty raise OOP with TT but unlikely from melting snowmen...

I open preflop. Flop is ok. T is nearly always fold.

Villain might raise a set pre, 3bet it otf and not raise it ott when the flush hits. Yes he will have a set sometimes and take this line, but it is very rare imo. On the other hand he is very likely to take this line with a ton of flush combos.
This is why I still don't get anyone that says to fold turn. We pay 21.2BB to play for a pot of 113.4. This means we get direct odds to draw to a fh, even if villain holds a Tc flush. Not to mention we have position and might get additional value from a flush otr.

fold preflop
I dont wanna play low pocked pair in multi way pot agains large rangeds. - Bad coolers for us.
For ISOraise is week on MP when CO and BUT is 26/15.
IMO.

Folding pre is not better. I do not mind playing mw.

Absolutely. If the pot doesn't become too large with many staying in, a set is a definite winner. If you get in for 1 bb and win a 50 bb pot (not big by any standards), then you have at least 25x return on that 1 bb.

Set over set is relatively unusual, and is possible to get away from.