[Closed] hard to believe in "random number generator"

I only read the tiltle, but will still answer this thread.

"variance, random, downswing, psychology, cooler, lack of skill, VPIP, tilt, BRM, over play, [ ] folding skills"

Hope it helped.

its not random, you're right.

Start cold calling with 72 offsuit against a tight player, you'll be amased how rewarding it is mentally when you hit. Tight player has AA, flop comes T72, he bet you overbet raise all in and he calls.

If your theory is correct, playing 72 off should prove to become very profitable. Hell, why not just open shove any two cards from any position, preferably really deep stacked.

Anyways, this was actually just an example from a home game where we copied the "7-2" game from high stakes poker. I had 72, cold called a raise from a preflop nit who never c-bets when no hit and can't let go of overpairs postflop. It was +ev there of course as you won 2bb from each player when winning with 72 off.

What you should do, especially in the SNGs, is look up the players you see playing rags and
playing like donkeys and sucking out on Sharkscope or Poker Pro Labs.

Just write down the names, and when the game is done, look them up and you will ALWAYS
find that they are big time losing players. If they are ahead, it is because they have a small sample size,

Or they got lucky in a higher buy in.

I do not know of anything to keep track of the winnings of players in cash games,
but by looking up these donkeys that play by your theory of playing like a donkey,
and playing bad hands etc etc in SNGs, you will have it proven to you that it does not work.

It just seems that they are ahead by playing these cards because it is a different donkey
sucking out on you each time, and this makes it feel like you are playing wrong.

But these donkeys each are getting lucky on you this once, and unlucky on MOST of their
poker hands over their carreer.

Be steadfast and play solid poker and collect in the long run.

its not completely random, but it is pseudo random

Hi it does seam that its not random its been happening to me all weekend playing nl10 I get AA, KK or AK raises get re-raised so go all in and I'm up against 56s or some other very marginal hand and the villain draw out on usually on the river.

It sucks but in the long run it should work out.

All in all the SSS has work very well for me so far just this weekend my bank roll has taken a hit dropped from $88 to $71 It's sick but it happens.

Just Thought I'd add this

I was play today (9/3/09) on fl10 and played using the hand charts for FL and had pocket A's first hand I had played, hit an A on flop raise got re raise and end up in a betting war with this guy so ended up with all my chips in the pot with just the river to come our card where turned over and all he had was 7 3 he'd hit nothing on the flop and a flush draw on turn he hit the flush on river. He played every hand the same and sucked out on 4 other player with big hand when he had crap and hit on turn & river. But when he left the table he had lost most of his stack.

So my point is Keep hitting these guys and betting as much as you can when you have your big hands they may get lucky but in the end they lose it all. I finished session $6 up he nearly went lost it all.

lmao

in theory it's impossible to be 100% random

but I really doubt it makes a decent diference or wild players get rewarded by it. and better than live games in its randomness.

Originally posted by dnalloh

so i play good solid poker for hours and hours

Maybe not>>>>>? ♦

I believe there's no such thing as a real RNG. But what the poker sites have are probably the closest you get.

They certainly don't rig it based on betting patterns. Come on man, why would they?

But if you're playing on Titan you might be right. That site is actually rigged.

Regards,
Kimber88

Originally posted by dnalloh
i certainly dont expect agreement here, but it is just incredibly hard for me to right now believe that the rng's out there dont recognize betting patterns and start giving good stuff to the wilder players. here is my story for today.

Stopped reading right there.

You don't have my agreement, as you already pointed out.

lol.. titan rigged? good joke
I believe everything is just in our mental avearance (hope it means the smae in english as in our language). Our mind is designed i nthe way that we win several hands together we dont start svearing and going on tilt, we more or less take it as taken, they way it should be. Opposite is when the several badbeats happen/ or opponents suckout on us. Then our mind dont take it as well. So we also more than less remember far more bad beats and only several best hands we won!
Besides i doubt poker sites would jeopardize everything they have, jsut to have some "not random hand generators" - can u imagien how many players would left them?

I read ur thread and all i can say its bankroll management. if u started to play 2 dollars limit with ur 50 bugs its all wrong. u should read some articles about bankroll management and than start to play poker. With BM u wouldnt be down to 4 bugs... thats all i have to say...

I've had similar experiences on Mansion and other iPoker sites. You play good, solid, tight/aggressive poker and you find yourself the victim of bad beat after bad beat.

It's not much consolation when you see a donk walk away with your chips, but if you put your money in with the better cards you are playing good poker. You've got no control what comes up on the flop, turn and river.

All you can do is put your chips/money in while you're ahead - and it looks as though that's what you're doing.

As to whether the random generator is really that random, well.... the jury is still very much out when it comes to Mansion and iPoker.

I have had a lot less success on their sites than I have had on other sites, but I've been playing the same type of game everywhere.

There's not much you can do other than start to play your solid poker elsewhere - it should pay off when you find the right place.

People seem to focus on monitary values too much IMO, poker isn't some sort of get rich quick scheem. At time it may seem like it but you don't get very far by playing without some sort of strategy. Even though luck is part of the game you can't just shove and pray to get lucky (like some low level donkies do)... you must apply proper BRM, be able to live with bad beats and not get frustrated when players make such stupid plays at low levels. If you can't focus when you shove all in for $2 and lose how can you control yourself when you shove for like $20 or $40 and lose to a bad beat or lose a flip or something like that?

i get bored of these posts. If u dont believe in them then dont play poker, simple.
If they were not random then how come many people can make lots of money against the stupid donk fish?
@themagpiespg:5 stacks is nothing playing SSS. And also AA vs 56s is 80/20. You will lose 2/10 times.

Actually if internet poker is rigged it's even better:

1) your account is rigged in the same way as others, so there's complete fairness
2) guarantee that in the long run your AA will win vs KK 80% & etc.
3) if there are patterns, hey, why not take advantage of that?

Those platforms are usually certified by external consultants who make some statistics test to see if they're actually random or if there is some pattern or "rigging" going on

There is a specific array of tests to certify that!