Hyper Turbo 1,5 $ 6max Bubble Q9o Shove ?

not talking about your push/fold, I`m more surprised BB folded, when he should be calling any two. Definitely make a note about this player, its a big mistake and should be exploited (maybe he was playing too many tables or whatever)
Q9o seems like a good enough push here since you are going to get pretty much blinded out in next few hands.

sng wizard is out of date and not as good as holdem resources or ICMizer so that probably explains the difference

Did you run HMR with future game simulation?
The BB might fold here to prolong the bubble so he can abuse both of you SS for longer

I shove here as you're the BB next hand and Q9 is better than a random hand you will get in the BB

It’s an interesting fold of the BB, but I don’t think it’s bad to fold Q9o on the BTN with still a shorter stack in. He could play tight as well and you don’t want to clash against the BB.

Cheers,
SDK1987

ICMizer with FGS says this is a fold - http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#aBceiW

Q9o is a clear fold, whereas QTo & K9o are clear shoves but there is something weird with this, if Hero folds and SB shoves (only 43%???) it says BB only calls 43%
It says the BB should only be calling our shove with 29%

Have I done something wrong here?

This is a clear fold. There is SB who is shorter than you and BB can call any two here. Normally it´s an any two call for him, I have no idea why he folded. With Q9o you have a marginal hand, which is often behind or just slightly ahead like 60%. Because BTN must call any two you should push with a hand with real chances to win. With your chips you are short but you still have a little more time to wait for something solid hand. QT has better winning chances because it has more potential.

I´m not sure but I think Q9 suited would be a push?

Hey slippyjim,

You could also ask Qicmizer at [OFFICIAL Support Thread] ICMIZER 2 - SNG analysis tool & SNG coach.

Regards

Laz

Originally posted by slippyjim
sng wizard is out of date and not as good as holdem resources or ICMizer so that probably explains the difference

Did you run HMR with future game simulation?
The BB might fold here to prolong the bubble so he can abuse both of you SS for longer

I shove here as you're the BB next hand and Q9 is better than a random hand you will get in the BB

Originally posted by slippyjim
ICMizer with FGS says this is a fold - http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#aBceiW

Q9o is a clear fold, whereas QTo & K9o are clear shoves but there is something weird with this, if Hero folds and SB shoves (only 43%???) it says BB only calls 43%
It says the BB should only be calling our shove with 29%

Have I done something wrong here?

Hi. Regarding your link — you have FGS depth at 1, for 3 way I recommend either FGS 2 (one full round of blinds) or FGS 5.
FGS 5 runs 2 full rounds of posting blinds, and with FGS5 Q9o becomes a push: http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#ceiqHS

http://www.icmpoker.com/screenshot/GmyXVV/

Big stack knows that players are still pushing rather tight and are very pressured right now, so he isn't interested in breaking the bubble too much.
So Big stack calls tighter than some intuition can suggest, slowly blinding out the short stacks is more efficient than bursting bubble and getting to HU Chip EV.

Thanks a lot for the replies guys ! (Wasn't online for some time)
I'll try ICMIZER instead of SNG Wizard, seems like a good software, especially the FGS thing.

About the hand, still a very though spot. For Icmizer with FGS5 its a +0,18 % call but I think my fold was ok here.

In close spots like these, often I'm not sure what to do when I have just a few hands of my opponents, so they litterally unknowns.
The 49 % calling range of them which I mentioned could vary a lot.

What do u do against unknowns in this case and in general(in this case fishes) ?
I tend to fold in very close spots cause on this limit most of the players are pretty bad and often calling too wide, especially in icm situations.