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corsc
Joined: 03.11.2009

Lately I find myself taking this line with the nuts.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 252.6 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 100 BB
BB: 179.2 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 105.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 426.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (CO): 268.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♦ K♣

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 9.6 BB, Hero calls 6.6 BB

Flop: (19.6 BB, 2 players) 2♦ K♠ 6♣
BB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

Turn: (43.6 BB, 2 players) 6♥
BB bets 23 BB, Hero raises to 67 BB

Raising the the turn to set up a river shove.
Is this too strong when Villain seems more than willing to keep betting into me?

Spoiler

fold
Hero wins 85.8 BB


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R2PNZ
Joined: 02.01.2017

Personally I'm not worried about scaring people out of a pot on the micro's. Bet with the best, fold anything else.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Board is low with 1 high card. By raising the turn you represent K or 6 and make all weaker fold.
If board was wet, you can raise.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

4bet pre. By slowplaying you will just miss value quite often.
As played the flop is dry and I think calling is fine. Same thing on the turn. By raising there you will fold out every hand you beat. You are in position and I believe you will make more money by calling there and letting villain bet the river too, and if he checks you can bet it yourself.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

They both are deep, So calling the 3b is not a mistake.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

I would raise flop here because there are more hands that still call. The range stays wider. OTT you will isolate yourself with very good hands and you may find yourself in a tricky situation then. However, would not be too worried since you can't fold :)

nh, sir.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

QQ-TT will fold.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Yes, you will anyway make the range narrower. So what do you suggest to do on later streets?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We can call turn. We can always raise on river.


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corsc
Joined: 03.11.2009

Thanks for all the input. Lots more to think about; which was my hope in posting :)


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tiltmonk
Joined: 02.07.2014

Originally posted by nitrol
We can call turn. We can always raise on river.

Totally agree, why do you raise turn? Just note, your villain is not pretty happy with turn. He is just 1/2 betting, but the flop he bets 2/3. You forced to fold the worse hand. If villain is on AA only he has only 2 outs. I guess you missed a lot of value by raising turn.


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corsc
Joined: 03.11.2009

Originally posted by tiltmonk
Totally agree, why do you raise turn?

Looking back, I think I was incorrectly trying to build a pot.

Originally posted by tiltmonk
I guess you missed a lot of value by raising turn.

Totally agree


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

If you want his stack (it looks yummy) you have to start raising at some point. Don't second guess, and don't be to sure any other magical line would have gained you more.

That said, turn raises, especially on a board like this, demands more respect than a flop raise. Yet so, he mighty have folded to a flop raise - who knows. There is no "correct" answer, but I am personally always aiming for the whole stack rather than the more secure smaller gain. It is based on the theory that people have a hard time getting off AA at these limits.


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