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Titicamara
Titicamara
Joined: 18.05.2009
Posts: 136
15.01.2017, 09:48

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $11 (110 bb)
BB: $29.89 (298.9 bb)
UTG: $12.54 (125.4 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♠: Q♣:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) T♦: 3♥: 5♦: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.71, BTN calls $0.71, BB folds

Turn: ($2.37) 2♥: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.77, BTN calls $1.77

River: ($5.91) T♣: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.03, Hero calls $4.03

Results:

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$13.97 pot ($0.69 rake)
Final Board: T♦: 3♥: 5♦: 2♥: T♣:
Hero showed Q♠: Q♣: and lost (-$6.81 net)
BTN showed T♥: Q♦: and won $13.28 ($6.47 net)


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nitrol
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Joined: 24.07.2010
Posts: 11,244
15.01.2017, 09:51

What makes you call this river bet?


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la55i
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Joined: 27.01.2013
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15.01.2017, 12:06

Villain can have some missed draws and you block none of them. I think theoretically this call was ok since you have to bluffcatch some % and this hand might be one of the best hands you have here? I checked this with Snowie and it would call too, but Snowie thinks villain has no QT hands in his range. So if we think villain can be flatting more Tx hands pre and is more passive postflop, we can make an exploitative fold here.


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Dadramel
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Joined: 10.08.2014
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15.01.2017, 12:11

You can always postpone the turn bet


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nitrol
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15.01.2017, 13:15

Our bets are not small and BY called 2 streets. Board is low and straights are not that possible. If he is calling with Tx then on river he improved....
Call seems not that good.


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Hesticus
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Joined: 24.06.2008
Posts: 2,612
15.01.2017, 16:40

I also don't like to call here. But maybe I am also too exploitative atm in my playing style.

Just checked the exact hand of villain. Definitely not a good move villain's calling on BTN with QTo. Make a note for he has a wide calling range here so you most likely are ahead in equity on average.


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YohanN7
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Joined: 15.06.2009
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16.01.2017, 12:50

We are actually not that high in our range. Only JJ is lower (unless we are bluffing), and I'd probably bluff-catch with some JT/QT OTR in addition to AA and maybe KK.


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tiltmonk
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Joined: 02.07.2014
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16.01.2017, 13:20

I'm not pretty sure we have to call there. You double barelled on wet board. If villain is unknown, you are also unknown to him (I don't see any river stats). If he is unknown to us, hero is mostly unknown to him. Yes, you villain could have some missed draws, but he could also have closed GS OTT and FH.
I guess his T calling range could be like this

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ThTs, 5h5s, 5h5c, 5s5c, 3d3s, 3d3c, 3s3c, 2d2s, 2d2c, 2s2c, KdQd, AdJd, AhJh, KdJd, KhJh, QdJd, AhTh, AsTs, KhTh, JhTh, JsTs, Th9h, Ts9s, Ah5h, Ad4d, Ah4h, Ad3d, Ad2d

If so, his river bet is 2/3. It seems like a value bet. Anyway, lets count.
4.03/(4.03+4.03+5.91)*0.96 = 0.3 = 30%
Your EQ vs his range 32.14%. So, it is a slightly +EV call.
So, you have to call I guess.


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