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NL10 ~ AJs 3b pot

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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $10.15 (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 17.31, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 53)
UTG: $10.00 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 16.81, 3Bet Preflop: 7.53, Hands: 236)
MP: $10.76 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 37)
CO: $4.36 (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 24.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
BTN: $17.21 (VPIP: 24.27, PFR: 21.86, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 599)
Hero (SB): $10.00

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A♥ J♥

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.10, fold, UTG calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.30, 2 players) Q♦ 2♥ 4♥
Hero bets $1.10, UTG calls $1.10

Turn: ($4.50, 2 players) 4♠
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.25, fold

UTG wins $4.30

I decide to put this in my 3b bluff range, as it's too weak to call and its too nice to fold haha (right thinkin?).
We flop a FD so standard C-bet. But when the turn peels a pair, i decide to give up.
If i bet the turn, my hand could already be dead to Q's, and if i was to hit the river i doubt he'll call a triple barrel with an overpair so we're kinda ISO'ing ourselves vs a fullhouse, AKA, putting money in behind every street.
I know to say he has a full house on the turn is naive as he has like, 10's+ AQ in his range.
I'm just not sure ok :f_cool: let me know your thoughts.


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lotteri3xx
Joined: 03.11.2016

3-bet bluffing is fine preflop, betting once then giving up on the turn when the board pairs is fine imo, if he calls you on a Q high board, then the board pairs, I do not think you have a lot of fold equity. Even JJ and TT might call once and triple barreling this board doesn't seem right especially when he his range is Qx heavy, AA and probably KK would re-raise pre, QQ and other Qx suited hands would call and see a flop in position . You're either dead to a set or very far being his range when he has a pair or sometimes an overpair. Given how the action has gone, he has a lot more Qx in his range, and by betting again you're trying to rep AQ or an overpair, but I don't think villain would fold enough to a double barrel. I think you played the hand fine


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We cannot fold vs that small bet.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I would fold pre but that is just a question of preference. I checked some ranges from coaches and some of them would 3bet and some would fold. So I say this is ok pre.
OTF can go both ways too. UTG's calling range has mostly pocket pairs and I don't expect you to have much fold equity + sometimes you might get even more value by checking and letting villain barrel you when you hit. But on the other hand you have nut FD+BDSD+your A and even J might be in play so I can totally agree with betting.
That turn is stupid because it pairs the board. Villain is betting very small (you need less than 20% equity) but it looks a bit suspicious? Again I think this maybe can go both ways but I can agree with folding


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
We cannot fold vs that small bet.

nitrol, don't post 1 sentence answers please.

Originally posted by la55i
I would fold pre but that is just a question of preference. I checked some ranges from coaches and some of them would 3bet and some would fold. So I say this is ok pre.
OTF can go both ways too. UTG's calling range has mostly pocket pairs and I don't expect you to have much fold equity + sometimes you might get even more value by checking and letting villain barrel you when you hit. But on the other hand you have nut FD+BDSD+your A and even J might be in play so I can totally agree with betting.
That turn is stupid because it pairs the board. Villain is betting very small (you need less than 20% equity) but it looks a bit suspicious? Again I think this maybe can go both ways but I can agree with folding

So using you're rule (;P) 2x 9 =18+1 19% equity.

how does the 1.25$ into 4.50 equate into pot odds. So i'm putting in 1.25 to win 7$. So that's roughly 18% equity, assuming we're live?

yeah perhaps i should just nit it out an fold pre since i'm not even beating this limit @_@


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gandy666
Joined: 11.01.2017

my thought is that you still have some implied odds on flush, quite small but still.
over that he can play that line with PP (88-JJ looks possible?) for free SD, so you can call and J on river gives you freeSD. The same goes for A
so imo you can call here easy over 20% equity, I would say about 25%
1.25$ in 7$ pot


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Saren113
Joined: 06.03.2009

rake on those limits are almost 8 bb/100, so you will have to play solid to be able to climb up through the stakes!


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I will post whatever I want if it is not through the forum rules!
bet is small and we can call to see the river. if not it is a bit too tight.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Yea you need about 18% equity and you have about 19% equity. Take into account the rake, your possible implied odds and your reverse implied odds. It is close. I think both are fine options.
Btw: I'm not sure if we really can be thinking about the implied odds? The board paired and villain has QQ in his range so we are not really that happy if he puts more money in the pot, right?


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by la55i
The board paired and villain has QQ in his range so we are not really that happy if he puts more money in the pot, right?

That's what i said to begin with. If we do hit, we have to call a 2/3 on the river. Or perhaps we could bet small an fold.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by nitrol
I will post whatever I want if it is not through the forum rules!
bet is small and we can call to see the river. if not it is a bit too tight.

I just want the reasoning behind you're answer that's all.

Ok so say we call, hit the flush. What's your line?


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by DecMate

Originally posted by la55i
The board paired and villain has QQ in his range so we are not really that happy if he puts more money in the pot, right?

That's what i said to begin with. If we do hit, we have to call a 2/3 on the river. Or perhaps we could bet small an fold.

How many QQ does he have? 3 combos.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by DecMate

Originally posted by nitrol
I will post whatever I want if it is not through the forum rules!
bet is small and we can call to see the river. if not it is a bit too tight.

I just want the reasoning behind you're answer that's all.

Ok so say we call, hit the flush. What's your line?

Xc if not push.


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