TPTK in Coordinated Board

I think the hand was played fine, I don't think this spot is too bad overall. I would bet less on the river.

You could bet more on the turn .35ish to charge Jx hands, and on the river 1/3 pot and fold to a raise. Often river raises are nuts just bare that in mind.

I think the hand was played fine, I don't think this spot is too bad overall. I would bet less on the river.

You could bet more on the turn .35ish to charge Jx hands, and on the river 1/3 pot and fold to a raise. Often river raises are nuts just bare that in mind.

What is the purpose of the bet? What weaker hands will call or raise?

Why would you give up on the turn? Don't bet on the river, that's how you avoid hidden two pairs, trips, sets having TPTK that are frequently overplayed

I think going for thin value on the river can just about be +EV but it's close.
If we bet small villain can call with Kx Qx which makes up most of his range as he's showed no aggression.

Plus, this is NL2. Unless villain is a decent reg I think thin value is fine.

Originally posted by nitrol
What is the purpose of the bet? What weaker hands will call or raise?

Exactly, that's why I think giving up on the turn is fine.

I don't see too any weaker hand calling after that turn...

Originally posted by Dadramel
Why would you give up on the turn? Don't bet on the river, that's how you avoid hidden two pairs, trips, sets having TPTK that are frequently overplayed

Of the few hands I see opponent calling with in the turn is AT, that's why I'm thinking about the possibility of giving up on the turn, even if it sounds too tight.

I don't like my river bet either, but I did not want opponent to make a standard raise and put me AI, that's why I decided bet/fold would be better (even though I ended up calling the mini raise, which I also don't like).

UTG+1 calls UTG open. The ranges are full of broadway combos. So I can see a lot of 2pair, set, straight TPTK hands here.
I'm not sure about the turn, maybe we can bet maybe we can check call?
OTR I would not bet, at least that big. It is either check fold or then a very thin value bet. This is too big.

Maybe I'm wrong here but he has to fold most of his coldcalling range on this flop (PPs, SCs) and only hands that are worse than our on turn are AQ, KJ, QJ and JJ, and I don't believe that hands are betting when we check, so even X/F could be reasonable turn play.
Question is can we expect him to call with those hands if we bet? He shouldn't, but I think he can, so your 1/2 pot turn bet could be fine.
River is clear X/F in my eyes. All those Jx hands have showdown value, so it's less likely to bluff, AQ will never valuebet river, so all the hands that bet beat us.