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NL25 zoom, facing a raise shove on drawy board multiway.

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Norah13
Joined: 04.10.2009

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $21.12 (84.5 bb)
BB: $19.07 (76.3 bb)
UTG: $30.20 (120.8 bb)
MP: $24.11 (96.4 bb)
CO: $27.95 (111.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $26.27 (105.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A♦: K♣:
UTG raises to $0.85, MP folds, CO calls $0.85, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.65, CO calls $2.65

Flop: ($10.85) 5♣: T♦: 3♦: (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4, CO raises to $24.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $18.77 and is all-in, UTG folds

Turn: ($60.39) 8♣: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($60.39) 5♦: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$60.39 pot ($2.50 rake)
Final Board: 5♣: T♦: 3♦: 8♣: 5♦:
UTG mucked and lost (-$7.50 net)
CO showed J♦: Q♦: and won $57.89 ($31.62 net)
Hero showed A♦: K♣: and lost (-$26.27 net)


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Dadramel
Joined: 10.08.2014

You both spewed a big time, I don't continue on a low cards board in 3 way betting less than 40% of the pot but that's not the biggest spew here


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

In which way is this board drawy (referring to thread title)?

Personally, I think you could do with some hand reading basics nailed down. First, think about what you represent to your opposition here.


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Norah13
Joined: 04.10.2009

Originally posted by YohanN7
In which way is this board drawy (referring to thread title)?

Personally, I think you could do with some hand reading basics nailed down. First, think about what you represent to your opposition here.

So if villain got like 67 67s or A2s, KQdd QJdd KJdd thats not a heavy draw board, but you have a some draws over there. I guess who should read some hand basics its not me :P


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

Originally posted by Norah13

Originally posted by YohanN7
In which way is this board drawy (referring to thread title)?

Personally, I think you could do with some hand reading basics nailed down. First, think about what you represent to your opposition here.

So if villain got like 67 67s or A2s, KQdd QJdd KJdd thats not a heavy draw board, but you have a some draws over there. I guess who should read some hand basics its not me :P
No, between you and me, I wouldn't think so:)


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Norah13
Joined: 04.10.2009

lol, btw what you think about the hand ?


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

First off, most people don't call big preflop 3-bets OOP with 76s, or A+small suited. Thus don't worry about the straight draw. Secondly, don't worry too much about the flush draw. You have the A♦:, effectively blocking most credible flush draws. The board is, in other words, not particularly drawy.

Flop: No reason to bet since we have nothing against two opponents, one of which is almost certain to have a better made hand (a pocket pair). At any rate, they aren't likely to call with worse hands, and small drawing hands are rare for the reasons stated above. If they actually are drawing, you do them a favor by betting that small. Thus, this bet isn't good against any holding, besides overcards. But you can't bet "for protection" with any silly hand that could, by coincidence, actually be the best. You can't bet for a bluff either, at least not with that sizing.

As played: When action swings back to you, you pretty much know you are third best. The only way to win is that CO is bluffing AND UTG backs off AND CO fails to hit his draw. I estimate that this will work out around 5-10% of the time or even lower with CO a typical tight player.

Still as played: The real question here is whether you call with AA, and, if so, if you call with the A♦: in you hand, blocking flush draws.


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AlvisR
Joined: 27.02.2009

Came here to like all YohanN7's posts :f_love:


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Norah13
Joined: 04.10.2009

The CO is a 31/22 in 700 hands with 9% of squeeze.


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HennieP
Joined: 15.05.2008

I don't like the 3 bet pre-flop with AKo. A call would have been just fine in case you miss the flop like you did. On the flop you're 2 cards away from either a flush or a straight. So to get a made hand like a pair of Aces or Kings on the turn you have exactly 6 outs. A check fold on the flop would have been the sensible thing to do. What you effectively did was gamble your whole stack hoping to catch an Ace or King or a runner runner flush or straight. Nothing else makes sense here.


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Xixi74
Joined: 08.09.2013

nice squeeze spot, good hand to, good squeeze !

Flop ? mmh, why cbet ? why call ? why ? why ? and why ? ahaha
Especially when UTG calls, he's showing pretty strong.

You can put range of UTG and CO, and see your equity against. I don't understand how the call could be great.


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