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J10o reshove SB vs BB Final Table of Big $82

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lokiah
Joined: 13.04.2011

PokerStars - $75+$7|1500/3000 Ante 375 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 54,570
BB: 152,852 (VPIP: 29.70, PFR: 22.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 101)
UTG: 47,472 (VPIP: 12.03, PFR: 9.38, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 133)
CO: 51,410 (VPIP: 24.26, PFR: 16.85, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 273)
BTN: 373,696 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 24.37, 3Bet Preflop: 10.20, Hands: 121)

5 players post ante of 375, Hero posts SB 1,500, BB posts BB 3,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 6,375) Hero has T♥ J♠

Spoiler

fold, fold, BTN raises to 6,000, Hero raises to 54,195 and is all-in, fold, BTN calls 48,195

Flop: (113,265, 2 players) Q♣ 7♣ 7♦

Turn: (113,265, 2 players) 3♣

River: (113,265, 2 players) 6♦

Hero shows T♥ J♠ (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 44%, Flop 26%, Turn 9%)
BTN shows 9♣ A♥ (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 56%, Flop 74%, Turn 91%)
BTN wins 113,265

Was it a really bad ICM shove from me? the BB been opening last few hands due to nature of stacks and I definitely think this was a +EV shove (Going for win obv)but just wondering how big of ICM mistake it is? I was streaming and 1 of the viewer thought it was really bad just trying to figure it out for future reference :)

Payouts were:
1st $2074.71
2nd $1579.80
3rd $1203.01
4th $916.09
5th $697.59


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Jordyvde
Joined: 03.05.2015

I would say so yeah, there are 2 stacks shorter as you are so you have to be really careful in these spots. It sucks to let the bigstack just walk over you but there is nothing else we can really do. ICM is a bitch :f_frown:


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lokiah
Joined: 13.04.2011

Could I bother you to put this into ICMizer for me (don't have it lol) please? Would like to see how much money I'm burning in this spot :< . I think Button is opening super wide in this spot btw..maybe 70%+


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dddq8842
Joined: 09.12.2014

Yes this is bad shove at ft. I would reshove maybe top 10% probably less here vs villain being chip leader.
I don't think how much you are lighting on fire is what you should be focusing on. Instead be more aware of icm factor itself when making this shove and looking at other players stack. Restealing vs villain with those stats+chipleader is suicidal.

PS: I'd also jam if i was btn


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lokiah
Joined: 13.04.2011

Ok thanks. I guess it was evident as after I get KO this other short stack shoved 77 and ran into KK of that big stack . The 3rd short stack basically sat there and got almost double my pay so ye...sick i guess.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

This is off course BTN against SB, but don’t forget you can use 3 trial calculations every day with icmizer, but beware you can’t use the browser Google Chrome for this. Other browsers should work fine I think.

In this situation it’s an easy fold with JTo as 3rd in chips, but then you will know this for next time.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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lokiah
Joined: 13.04.2011

thanks SDK1987. I was 3rd in chips but only 1 BB ahead of both lol but ye i see now the benefit of being a little tighter in these spots , I was just taking a shot vs a guy thats opening wide i guess to pull ahead of the pack but failed :<


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