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88 vs tilty-looking openshove

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corvusim
Joined: 20.06.2016

Alright, a bit of background first. Villain doesn't look like a massive fish or anything, but in the last hand he x/r on 864 flop with J8, called my 3b, called my shove on A turn and lost his stack. Not 15 seconds later there's some action pre and villain shoves his stack on a 10bb pot. Hero still has BTN left to act but what do we do here with 88? This looks like a definition of a tilt. What's our calling range here, even though this is cash game and not a tourney, it can't be QQ+ only right?

partypoker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 98.2 BB
BTN: 89.6 BB
SB: 100 BB
BB: 103.4 BB
UTG: 104.4 BB
Hero (MP): 219.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♦ 8♠

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB raises to 100 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero?


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Pretty much impossible to know what you should do here against that guy without having a crystal ball.


       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    50.71%  50.22%   0.49% { 88 }
MP3    49.29%  48.80%   0.49% { 77+, A2s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J8s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, AJo+, KJo+, QJo }

Normally I would absolutely fold this. But now you just have to guess how wild his shoving range is.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Difficult spot then. I am quite a defensive player so I would fold this one but that is just a subjective decision.


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TurokRider
Joined: 21.10.2011

Calling here would be a gamble. It deffo looks like a tilt-shove with "any two" but even a random "Q6" has pretty good odds so I think this will be around coinflip.

If I feel good, I call, if I feel bad, I fold

A sure range for me would be smtg like TT+, AJ+, KJ+


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corvusim
Joined: 20.06.2016

Hero called this off because of his exquisite mind-reading skills of tilty villains even though he was shotting NL5 at that point, then BTN joined and flipped AKo. Original raiser flipped KK. :f_thumbsup: :f_thumbsup:


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